Tip to get some players flagged pvp while stealthed

[Zappy]

what i find most surprising is that no one would try a flare or some aoe near the robot >.<
surely it must say <Zenga's companion> or something.

They fixed that a long time ago. If you aren't pvp flagged, no action will flag you unless you have the enemy targeted. The flare will pull the rogue out of stealth, nor will aoe pull him out. Back in vanilla, I would take my rogue to the starting zones, and stealth close to a mage and just wait for him to aoe something. Fun times.

Another "trick" is to simply /duel the enemy. As soon as he starts attacking, do a /forfeit and you'll get him flagged.

In all seriousness though, if you enjoy this activity, you have no business on a pve server.

[zenga]

In all seriousness though, if you enjoy this activity, you have no business on a pve server.

Might be true, but ...

- I like the aspect that I can control when I want to pvp and when not. I afk about 60-70% of my online time, doing other things. I could log out of course, but that seems less practical to me. The opponents have the same ability. That being said, there is quite often some world pvp going on on my pve realm. And it's just enough for me to enjoy it.
- When I signed up for wow last year and made my first set of toons, my current realm was presented as the one for new players. I did'nt really question the realm choice, I just kept playing. And really happy here.
- See this topic in it's context: it was a one time little fun I had, that I just shared, I really question if I'll do it ever again.

[Bigfish]

Might be true, but ...

- I like the aspect that I can control when I want to pvp and when not. I afk about 60-70% of my online time, doing other things. I could log out of course, but that seems less practical to me. The opponents have the same ability. That being said, there is quite often some world pvp going on on my pve realm. And it's just enough for me to enjoy it.
- When I signed up for wow last year and made my first set of toons, my current realm was presented as the one for new players. I did'nt really question the realm choice, I just kept playing. And really happy here.
- See this topic in it's context: it was a one time little fun I had, that I just shared, I really question if I'll do it ever again.

Well, if that's your idea of fun, maybe you should keep it to yourself. I mean, you spell out yourself you prefer PvE because you can control when you PvP or don't, but your actions themselves reek of hypocrasy because you are denying that implicit choice to the people you are goading in to flagging.

At the end of the day, yes, they flagged themselves by being stupid, and you killing them is just another reality, but coming here and posting how you trick people isn't going to get you a high five and a pat on the back. It gets you a frown and a dismissive shake of the head.

[zenga]

... but coming here and posting how you trick people isn't going to get you a high five and a pat on the back. It gets you a frown and a dismissive shake of the head.

I don't post here to be appreciated or to make friends. For me this board is just a communication tool where I read and share info with people i share a hobby with. You are obviously entitled to your own opinion.

Well, if that's your idea of fun....

Yes I found that fun, just like other things in the game:
- putting up a stack of lichbloom for xx on the AH, and then put up just 1 lichbloom up for the exact same price
- killing the stormwind auctioneers with my rogues, and then advertise with my mage for a portal
- buy frozen orbs for 15g, trade them in for eternal fire and sell those for 30g+
- etc

Basically those actions can be classified as 'tricking' people into something. On my pve server, sometimes 2-3 pallies run into the back of orgrimmar, try to kite some players there, bubble and run back, and then a group of 10 allies is standing ready to nuke us. Same approach: they try to trick us into getting flagged. It usually ends up with a good fight everyone is enjoying. Most world pvp is centered around tricking people. And if the trick i described above was applied to me, I'd think something along the lines of 'damn bastard, well done, i got what i deserved'.

I'm surprised that fellow boxers talk about the morals of this, while they show up in a BG and 1 shot other players, or gank players (lowbies?) that are questing. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone on a pve realm is a carebear that wants to avoid pvp by all means.

[Bigfish]

I don't post here to be appreciated or to make friends. For me this board is just a communication tool where I read and share info with people i share a hobby with. You are obviously entitled to your own opinion.



Yes I found that fun, just like other things in the game:
- putting up a stack of lichbloom for xx on the AH, and then put up just 1 lichbloom up for the exact same price
- killing the stormwind auctioneers with my rogues, and then advertise with my mage for a portal
- buy frozen orbs for 15g, trade them in for eternal fire and sell those for 30g+
- etc

Basically those actions can be classified as 'tricking' people into something. On my pve server, sometimes 2-3 pallies run into the back of orgrimmar, try to kite some players there, bubble and run back, and then a group of 10 allies is standing ready to nuke us. Same approach: they try to trick us into getting flagged. It usually ends up with a good fight everyone is enjoying. Most world pvp is centered around tricking people. And if the trick i described above was applied to me, I'd think something along the lines of 'damn bastard, well done, i got what i deserved'.

I'm surprised that fellow boxers talk about the morals of this, while they show up in a BG and 1 shot other players, or gank players (lowbies?) that are questing. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone on a pve realm is a carebear that wants to avoid pvp by all means.

I'm not probing the morality of trickery, I'm saying its a dick move any way you cut it. But hey, you want to be a dick? Fine, go for it. You want to pretend to be a PvP badass by tricking people in to flagging on a PvE realm? Kudos to you. Just don't be surprised when people call you on it.

[zenga]

I'm not probing the morality of trickery, I'm saying its a dick move any way you cut it. But hey, you want to be a dick? Fine, go for it. You want to pretend to be a PvP badass by tricking people in to flagging on a PvE realm? Kudos to you. Just don't be surprised when people call you on it.

If that is your definition of being a dick, fine by me. It's not by my standards. And it seems pointless from my point of view to argue about standards.

However I don't see, in all objectivity, how I pretend here to be a pvp badass? I clearly say it's a trick, counting on the opposite faction not paying attention to what they do. I also state that I kill them off once they are outside, which can be seen as 'ganking'. But hey, feel free as a boxer yourself and 1 shotting people to call someone out for sharing a trick like I described. I can only shake my head, smile and move on.

[MiRai]

Sorry guys, this discussion is over. You're apparently not allowed to "trick" your mortal enemy into flagging for PvP because it is immoral and you may end up hurting someone's feelings. Zenga... consider yourself a horrible person.

[JoeWunsch]

Well, if that's your idea of fun, maybe you should keep it to yourself. I mean, you spell out yourself you prefer PvE because you can control when you PvP or don't, but your actions themselves reek of hypocrasy because you are denying that implicit choice to the people you are goading in to flagging.

At the end of the day, yes, they flagged themselves by being stupid, and you killing them is just another reality, but coming here and posting how you trick people isn't going to get you a high five and a pat on the back. It gets you a frown and a dismissive shake of the head.

I am sure people think the same of you when 5 chain lightnings hit them at once because you are playing 5 guys at once. to them, you are also a dick.

I think you are taking wow way to serious if tricking "the enemy" in a video game to lose, is being a "dick".