Tip to get some players flagged pvp while stealthed

[zenga]

Sometimes I like to kill some alliance on my pve server, but since they are not pvp flagged, I can't do shit. But ...one can go in stealth and use the "Blue Crashin' Thrashin' Racer Controller" which is a combat pet. It will turn red for the opposing faction, and they can obviously attack it, and thus get flagged for pvp. You can basically summon a new one straight away.

So what I did was basically park my team outside Stormwind, log them out, login a rogue that went inside sw in stealth. Summons the pet over and over and walks slowly back outside sw, keep summoning the pet. About 10 dumb alliance players were following it outside, all flagged pvp. Once they were close enough, I logged in my team and killed them off in seconds. Big fun. The more since I had my lvl 1 alliance AH team logged in so i could read trade all the time.

Maybe a known trick, but I felt like sharing it anyway during those (for some) boring times.

[Zub]

doesn't summoning your pet break stealth on the rogue?

[zenga]

Maybe it's bugged (which i doubt), but it didn't break stealth a single time for me.

[Zub]

what i find most surprising is that no one would try a flare or some aoe near the robot >.<
surely it must say <Zenga's companion> or something.

then again, it's alliance we're talking about here :-)

[zenga]

That's correct, the name of the caster is displayed on the pet. And yeah they tried to aoe, but you can see that one coming from a mile away. Obviously not a trick that you can repeat for ever and ever. But a one time use might give you some fun

[RobinGBrown]

That sounds as if it might be an exploit, maybe you should think twice about it.

[Zub]

That sounds as if it might be an exploit, maybe you should think twice about it.

i thought that as well, but if I understand this well, to get flagged they need to attack the (flagged) pet, so in my book it's ok, but i see what you mean

It would be an exploit if they were to get flagged without wanting to, or without doing anything that leads to flagging.
or it would be an exploit if the robot could attack them unflagged (like the rogues used to be able to sap unflagged players)

[blast3r]

It is much easier to PVP on a PVP server.

[RobinGBrown]

It is much easier to PVP on a PVP server.

Got to agree on that, if you want to PVP get onto a PVP server. Tricking inexperienced players into PVP is what the exploit is and it's pretty cheap.

There's a similar thing in EVE - you leave a container with some goods in it outside a newb station (where new players start) and then when they loot it thinking it's goodies you can obliterate them. In EVE this is one of the few PVP interactions that can get you banned (ont that it'd ever actually happen but it is mentioned in the 'player conduct' rules somewhere)

Anyway probably funny once or twice but these things tend to get out of hand and result in bans - remember all the 'anal [item_name_here]' stuff in chat - that had to be stepped on by GMs eventually.

[zenga]

I really don't see this as an exploit. The pet turns red, and it has clearly the name of the enemy player on it. It doesn't show up as a 'mob', but as an enemy player. A player should know that attacking something red that is not an npc nor a mob will get them flagged. If they don't know that, then they'll probably know after the first corpse run, just like I learned not to stand out in the field afk when I came out a bg.

So yes, you trick the player into getting flagged to be able to attack them later. But you kite him all the way out of town. It's not different then a player would try to kite few others out of SW where backup is waiting, just to get them flagged.

The argument 'if you want to pvp, join a pvp realm' is crap, since blizzard made the pvp plag feature for a reason: i.e. to decide yourself when you want to be vulnerable for pvp or not. Once you decide to be flagged, you can't expect that it will be a fair battle, you can be ganked by 40 or you can end up in a 1v1.