Holy crap -- PvP changes

[Ughmahedhurtz]

ofc we will assrape your chrs if you show up in a bg with bad gear. We earnt to do so. Cuz of our hard grind to get gear wich exel at killin stuff and staying alive in pvp.

Thanks for being honest about it; I can respect that. Most of us agree that it takes some work and ability to make it into the 2000+ club on your own. I'm just surprised that the resulting skewed playing field tilted dramatically in your favor is something you would enjoy or be proud of. It's basically like saying once you've won the FIFA World Cup championship, they now allow your team to field 15 players. You won that last BG? Color me unsurprised -- your tank has more HPs than some entire 5-man teams and more DPS than two or three of their players. How is that challenging anymore? At that point, you could let your hamster roll around on the keyboard and win the match. /shrug

[Firstcow]

Gz you just hit the constructiveness of the wow-furums.

I realy feel that people that welcome this change so hard, don't realy pvp much at all. It's more like "haha pvpers lost the privilege of having gear I couldn't badge farm!"
Realy... When I started pvp I sucked, I failed and sucked some more. And when I hit 1300 (after 150 games?) I bought the first item and even if it was low, I was damn proud.
And if you can't reach up to 1600 and get competetive gear(wich is all you need as a boxer) then you are doing sumthing wrong and/or giving up to easy.

No reason currentseason gear should be welfare. Everyone can obtain it, if they realy want it.

You feel, but you don't know. Many of us reached 1800 or 2000 rating and we enjoy this very much. I don't even know how many times i've lost hope of ever hitting 2k because of this stupid system. I thought the lack of helm and shoulders was the reason I can't hit 2k, but obviously it wasn't, it was skill. So there's no reason to keep gear from people anymore. Let them all have the gear at a slow pace that lasts an entire season and it will keep the competition up all the time.

[valkry]

You can get carried to the top gear in both PVE and PVP... gear doesn't always mean you earnt it.

Now the pvp titles you earn at the end of each season are the real indicators of skill... unless you win traded your way of course... which never ever happens amirite?

[valkry]

Quoted for untruth.

I dont understand your point? How do bads actually "hide" behind their gear if they are bad?

"Good" players will always gear up with better gear quicker than "bads". So, "good" players will allready be maxed out on gear when these "bads" finally gear up. And if a "good" player cant beat a "bad" player with equal gear....then you dont pass go.

To answer the bold... BROOOOOOOOOOOO STORM!!

[Fat Tire]

"Good" players will always gear up with better gear quicker than "bads". So, "good" players will allready be maxed out on gear when these "bads" finally gear up. And if a "good" player cant beat a "bad" player with equal gear....then you dont pass go.

There is a cap on conquest points per week- every one will be getting the same and roughly at the same rate given that they play until they reach the conquest cap for each week.

On beta I have a bar on the pvp tab its 0/13 and I played some 2v2 on beta everytime we won we gain points(268) and every time we lost we also gained points (also 268) which has gotta be bugged, however once that 13/13 filled up we no longer gained points. Now for every win we got +3 and for every loss we also got +3 which I think was bugged. It could conceivably only take people 10mins of pvp to reach the conquest point cap for the week.

Atleast on beta it was 1340 conquest points for the week. We played 4-5 more games and it didnt matter if we won or lost the 13/13 and max conquest points didnt move.

Now our team/pr rating did move, it was 96 points for a win instead of the current 48. So one can assume that the conquest point rate will be the same for everyone(given they go 13/13) and only the different color armor,2200 weapon ,end of season title will be used for the team/personal rating.

[outdrsyguy1]

I don't think theyve done the first pass on the numbers. last i checked, the daily bg awarded 25 conquest points. Given that there's a cap, and the pro pvp'ers won't be getting 1200+ arena points a week now, I expect to see a lot more people doing the daily bg. it will be interesting to see because as it is now, 25 points a day for a mediocre rated person is like 50% more arena points per week, where as a pro it's like 15% for a lot more time invested.

i also wonder if we'll see pro peeps trying to sell wins each week. I'd be surprised if they'd actually try to sell 2200 rating though.

[Kruschpakx4]

To answer the bold... BROOOOOOOOOOOO STORM!!

your still living in s7, now its STAAAAAAAAAAR FALLLLL!!!

[smokebum]

I still disagree, especially when the top 100 5's teams in US Bloodlust are 2360+ If you're in a BG that has only 5 2.2k rated teams, you're in a terribly shitty BG

I actually started reading the thread again and noticed something that I wasn't clear on. When I said u could probably count the number or teams that were over 2200 with one hand (basically saying boxing in arena isn't easy as some would think), I meant all the boxers in the world and not my bg as a whole. My bg is bad but not this bad.

I know it has nothing to do with the way this thread is going now but I hate being misunderstood.

Sorry I'm kinda anal like that.

[JoeWunsch]

Great news for me, I run a bunch of competitions that really can not get weapons.

(5x warlocks, 5 mage, 5x shadow priest)

I have them all at 80 and using titansteel because I could never get them their pvp weapons. I just do 10 arena games with them per week and sell the arena points , every 100 points = 2K honor, and buy gems for free gold.

[JoeWunsch]

Skilled pvp players welcome an even playing field. Bads need to hide behind gear.

I am superbad, so I hide behind better gear AND outnumbering my opponents 5 to 1.

I do this all in the name of pew pew.