Holy crap -- PvP changes

[Firstcow]

WoW pvp is not a fair sport, it's not like a shooter or SC2. WoW is designed to feed on the need of people to feel important, powerful or special. Giving different gear makes people feel any of these in any combination. So that's why some people, including me, started 5 boxing, I want to feel powerful, I want to crush my opponents without giving them any chance to retaliate. And then when I'm done killing them, I enjoy sitting on their heads and doing all sort of emotes to make their pain even bigger Childish and immature? Hell yes, but that's what makes WoW fun for me. If I had to always go in fair competition and always have to work hard to win anything, I wouldn't play WoW, I would just play SC2 which is much cheaper due to no sub.

This is why I didn't play arena in all seasons but S8, arena is hard, you can't just out burst your opponents, you have to outskill them, that doesn't make me feel powerful, it makes me feel like I have to work hard. Which is why towards the end of S8 I lost interest as I couldn't make progress after getting 2k rating by outbursting, I actually had to think to win games.

So deep down inside many of you have the same thirst to just ****ing crush someone hard in the ***ing ass, you just don't want to admit it

Edit: BTW, I've stopped playing wow 2 months ago because of the same reason I was enjoying it so much, it made me a power addict when basically I could kill 20+ people in AV matches by myself. It's very much fun, but it's not healthy, gives you a skewed perspective of how the RL world works. Which is why I play SC2 now, which is not as much fun, but at least it doesn't feed my hunger for crushing ass LOL

[bhec7715]

WoW pvp is not a fair sport, it's not like a shooter or SC2. WoW is designed to feed on the need of people to feel important, powerful or special. Giving different gear makes people feel any of these in any combination. So that's why some people, including me, started 5 boxing, I want to feel powerful, I want to crush my opponents without giving them any chance to retaliate. And then when I'm done killing them, I enjoy sitting on their heads and doing all sort of emotes to make their pain even bigger Childish and immature? Hell yes, but that's what makes WoW fun for me. If I had to always go in fair competition and always have to work hard to win anything, I wouldn't play WoW, I would just play SC2 which is much cheaper due to no sub.

This is why I didn't play arena in all seasons but S8, arena is hard, you can't just out burst your opponents, you have to outskill them, that doesn't make me feel powerful, it makes me feel like I have to work hard. Which is why towards the end of S8 I lost interest as I couldn't make progress after getting 2k rating by outbursting, I actually had to think to win games.

So deep down inside many of you have the same thirst to just ****ing crush someone hard in the ***ing ass, you just don't want to admit it

Edit: BTW, I've stopped playing wow 2 months ago because of the same reason I was enjoying it so much, it made me a power addict when basically I could kill 20+ people in AV matches by myself. It's very much fun, but it's not healthy, gives you a skewed perspective of how the RL world works. Which is why I play SC2 now, which is not as much fun, but at least it doesn't feed my hunger for crushing ass LOL

LOL.....10/10 for honesty. Yeah using instant lavas on some poor sap is pretty fun. Or busting 5 shocks and 5 thunders on a war that decides to BS you.

[Eloxy]

And one more thing, what you say realy pisses me off. Many of my friends and myself worked realy hard for our rating and gear. Lots of frustration, practice, fun (and keyboards in my case). And you say we cowardly hide behind gear??? Gtfo, ofc we will assrape your chrs if you show up in a bg with bad gear. We earnt to do so. Cuz of our hard grind to get gear wich exel at killin stuff and staying alive in pvp. And don't go all "many people get boosted in pvp!" bleh boosting in pve happens at a more regular basis.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

ofc we will assrape your chrs if you show up in a bg with bad gear. We earnt to do so. Cuz of our hard grind to get gear wich exel at killin stuff and staying alive in pvp.

Thanks for being honest about it; I can respect that. Most of us agree that it takes some work and ability to make it into the 2000+ club on your own. I'm just surprised that the resulting skewed playing field tilted dramatically in your favor is something you would enjoy or be proud of. It's basically like saying once you've won the FIFA World Cup championship, they now allow your team to field 15 players. You won that last BG? Color me unsurprised -- your tank has more HPs than some entire 5-man teams and more DPS than two or three of their players. How is that challenging anymore? At that point, you could let your hamster roll around on the keyboard and win the match. /shrug

[Kicksome]

Yeah, imagine how all the PVE players would react if they said all the raids AND heroics drop the exact same gear so that everyone can be equal. BUT if you kill the end, end boss on heroic mode on the top raid, he'll drop a slightly upgraded weapon.

Same argument! PVE people need to hide behind gear to kill bosses? They aren't skilled enough to kill bosses without the gear?

Oh wait, PVE is a progression? Well so WAS PVP.

[Littleburst]

Yeah, imagine how all the PVE players would react if they said all the raids AND heroics drop the exact same gear so that everyone can be equal. BUT if you kill the end, end boss on heroic mode on the top raid, he'll drop a slightly upgraded weapon.

Same argument! PVE people need to hide behind gear to kill bosses? They aren't skilled enough to kill bosses without the gear?

Oh wait, PVE is a progression? Well so WAS PVP.

QFT. Didn't want to type it myself, because i have no clue if this is indeed the case. I guess there'll still be heroic loot that's better and actually does require progression to be able to get it.

[Jeppis]

I understand those who feel that they have earned their gear but since everyone is going to get all new gear when cataclysm comes out and their lvl80 hard earned gear(or not) is only good for vendors or boosting virtual ego... i'll say welcome to this change :P

Those good players are still getting their ego boost stuff to show that they can do pretty good job in pvp
All noobs or players who have less time to farm get their gear easier and gear stat difference isn't big so everything is more balanced(=good thing) but still bad players are losing. imo more balanced game is more competitive and fun it will go and i think it's good thing.

Cry new changes, adapt and play hard go pro if you can't adapt this game isn't worth of crying even if you pay 50+ dollars / month

[Kicksome]

Cry new changes, adapt and play hard go pro if you can't adapt this game isn't worth of crying even if you pay 50+ dollars / month

No one is crying about anything, we're just discussing the changes, and what our opinions are regarding the same.

It's pretty interesting to hear other people's point of view until someone comes in and starts name calling like a 6y/o.

[Eloxy]

Ya, and I think I speak for most when I say that its not the fact that other people get the gear that is the problem, it's the fact that it can be obtained by a hamster accendentialy running over your keyboard (metafor please understand)

If more people pvp, then great news more varity in teams and closer mmr. But gettin a equal red helmet instead of a blue one isn't much of a carrot to me.

Gee... Some posts here ain't even worth answering gg

[Jeppis]

tbh equal red helmet instead of a blue one woudnt be enough for me either, ofc i wanna see some progress in pvp too so you need to make something to get your gear and feel that you've earned it but i don't wanna see gear with better stats as reward so that very good players get a lot more advantage than regular joe vs poor sucker