Holy crap -- PvP changes

[Alemi]

I agree with the lack of incentive, my biggest gripe since I've been doing arenas the past 2 months is the lack of diversity in teams we get matched up against. Seems like any given night there is only a handful of teams playing.

Same thing for me. I played, probably 50 games last night (nothing else to do) and probably faced 15 teams. Of those 15 teams, a number of full wrathful rerolls or MMRs that were SO out of line with mine it was insane. (ex: 1600 MMR vs. 2100 MMR).

When the gates open and I see 2 warriors with 40k health and an ele shaman with 34k, I just fetal position.

[Svpernova09]

Same thing for me. I played, probably 50 games last night (nothing else to do) and probably faced 15 teams. Of those 15 teams, a number of full wrathful rerolls or MMRs that were SO out of line with mine it was insane. (ex: 1600 MMR vs. 2100 MMR).

When the gates open and I see 2 warriors with 40k health and an ele shaman with 34k, I just fetal position.

rofl! I can definetely relate. It never fails, we can tell in the first 20 seconds what the teams MMR is and be pretty accurate. The game for us then is to see how well we do against them.

[smokebum]

I still disagree, especially when the top 100 5's teams in US Bloodlust are 2360+ If you're in a BG that has only 5 2.2k rated teams, you're in a terribly shitty BG

I actually started reading the thread again and noticed something that I wasn't clear on. When I said u could probably count the number or teams that were over 2200 with one hand (basically saying boxing in arena isn't easy as some would think), I meant all the boxers in the world and not my bg as a whole. My bg is bad but not this bad.

I know it has nothing to do with the way this thread is going now but I hate being misunderstood.

Sorry I'm kinda anal like that.

[Zappy]

It's not skill when a 4 DPS team can global one of my teammates.

That's a pretty funny statement considering that's what our multiboxing arena teams are all about.

It'll be an interesting season to say the least. After working my ass off to get two teams over 1800, there is definitely a great sense of accomplishment, but I also feel the pain of my newest team as the flaws are very highlighted in the system. I can't tell you how many 1400 rated teams we get beat down that have 2-3 fully decked out players carrying the other guys. While it's not impossible to move up, it can be incredibly frustrating as the MMR system is so flawed. You may fight a legitimate 1700 rated team where you have a good battle because everybody is on par for gear with each other, then the very next match be playing a low rated team that's carrying people that annihilate you so quickly. Our worst loss last night was a 1250 MMR rated team where 3 of their members have the 2200 weapons. Good luck against those comps.

A few weeks back, I was playing my DK/ret team and got 6-7 free wins off a team where only one guy showed up to play. He was all alone dancing, and I was shocked cause he had shoulders. I looked up his team afterwards and saw the team rating was around 1700, however, I was beating them as if they were a 13-1400 rated team. I didn't think much of it at the time until I faced them again later where all 5 showed up, and blew up my entire team rather quickly. What I found was that when only 1 person actually enters the arena, thee team MMR posts a lot lower than where the team rating is at, so when you beat them, they don't lose many points in their team rating, but it still drives their team MMR down a lot faster than their actual team rating. What's worse, is when you do face their entire team, their MMR is low enough where you'll get slaughtered in points.

At least with next season, you won't have better geared players keeping you from getting better gear.