How will we multibox after /click ,,,,,, is removed in 4.0

[zenga]

If the commas & fall through concept would be disabled in wotlk, I wouldn't mind for my pally 3 ele + resto team. I do not longer use them like I used to do, due to the 4x T10 bonus .

For my pally nothing would change, as i'm using a castsequence to tank while boxing. For my ele shammies i'd go with something like
dps button 1
/castsequence reset=alt flame shock, lava burst, light bolt x8
dps button 2
/cast lava burst
dps 3
/cast chain lightning
dps 4 same as macro as 1 but with extra /click with trinkets, em & blood fury for burst

And it would just put my tank macro on each of these buttons, which still makes it a 1 button spam, just need to jump from button to button. And my spam rate will be way more relaxed.

The big loss will be for my resto shaman, who was able to keep riptide up on 3 targets, cleanse my tank & purge/windshear as fall through. All in 1 click macro. But i'll just spread out what i used to do over the 4 buttons i use for dps (i.e. button 1 riptide on tank, button 2 cleanse spirit, windshear & purge castsequence , button 3 riptide on healer).

So yes it is not 100% ideal for some situations, but a castsequence won't be a huge loss in my situation. It will need a couple of dungeons before it feels natural, and it will require some tweaking. And most likely some smart fellow boxer will come up with a great work around sooner or later.

[Alemi]

Someone fairly new has a concern about a potential problem and is looking for some suggestions, maybe reassurance about the future. Glad so many stepped up with sarcasm to snobishly put them in their place. Vintage db.com right there.

It wasn't so much expressing concern as was stated, it was making broad generalizations "its become apparent that using ,,,,,,,,,,,, in macros is the staple of ALL boxers." And then the doomsday prophecy (much like the cataclysm - irony?) " The initial blow is going to be crippling, and then over the weeks which follow, it is going to mean the death of so many teams."

If it was phrased an genuine concern and someone looking for guidance, I suspect they would have gotten a better response.

Not trying to defend the jerkiness - but just saying, it wasn't someone coming in with bunnies and rainbows looking for a unbiased response.

That said - click has always felt like facerolling to me, and I never bothered to use it with my dk/shamans/druid/pallys (or any combination thereof). It may not lead to "max-efficiency-dps" but you make do with what you're given and I prefer to be the one deciding what spell I'm tossing out there. Creative use of castsequence macros, targettarget healing, and multi-keybindings (ex: druid moonfires, shamans flame shock, etc.) have always served well in the past, and they'll continue to in the future. WIth the ease of use for mouse repeating, addons like jamba-proc - make group healing and managing, for example, druid eclipse procs much easier.

We did them before the addons - we'll do them after. Just like we'll do without click. And, if people do have specific concerns, the community will help get through them if they haven't been answered before. That's what happened with WOTLK, that'll happen with Cata. I do suspect posts without specifics, who haven't taken the time to do any research, or fail to use puncuation or capitalization will be dealt with the same level of jerkiness as before.

[ElectronDF]

What are people's thoughts on using external programs for round-robins when comma fall-throughs go away. Is that bad since that might get around a thing they won't want us to do or could we just fall back to the "one keypress, one action" idea?

[ebony]

Jamba-Macro maybe? Is there anything that SDM does that Jamba-Macro doesn't?

ya thats would be a geart plan if they did not nuff the longer then 255 chars i tryed isboxer/super all will stop your keybord working over 255, But jamba thats just does not work at all useing the macrio addon,

+ more find i find out
mods with right do not work.

rightalt:
rightshift:
rightcrtrl:

all do not work

(ps: Jafula read my post on other froums i made you a bug report )


and my mixxed group is fine and i got some moives to show you

[Zub]

the thing is, there is still alot that can and will change. As long as there isn't a clear blue statement, and /or Cata is effectively out, don't hold your breath or count your chickens, or sell the bear's hide before you killed it, as they say in France.

[Coltimar]

Yet you offer nothing to help either, just flaming people here who took the time to read one of the OTHER threads on the subject -

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=31750
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=31784
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthrea...596#post286596

Or decided to do enough research on multiboxing to know that /click is only an alternative to castsequences and/or creative button placement.

http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Macros
http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Macro
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=92
http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Macros
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=30453
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=31436

It's not the end of the world, it's barely a ripple.

I've read all of those posts. I read every post. I didn't add anything useful because I'm not sure that my solution will work yet, so it wouldn't be very helpful. The point of my reply is that the knee-jerk reaction of so many replies is to just be a chump. There will be some solution, or maybe there won't be. Either way making people feel stupid for asking the question isn't the solution either.

[Kalyse]

I am just holding out hope that this was just a PTR change, and ,,,, will actually be around in Cata.
Will 4.0.0 come before Cata, or is Cata 4.0.0?

[Coltimar]

There will mostly likely be patch 4.0 that precedes Cataclysm. Anyone playing WoW without Cata will still be playing game version 4.

[spudstar99]

why not use these?!

The goal of these macros is to create a single button to spam for dps, without needing to watch for ability procs or waiting for cooldowns. The premise behind these macros is something called /changeactionbar which effectively changes your bars from the (default) shift+1 through shift+6. Blizzard had stated that no macro may activate another macro, and "removed the functionality" however with this you can place multiple macros into the relevant spots on your bars and have them chain each other up to 6 times. The following macros will all be labeled by class and spec. You can name the macro's whatever you wish.


Protection Warrior

Macro1

/cast Devastate
/changeactionbar 2

Macro2

/castsequence Shockwave, Shield Slam, Shield Slam, Shield Slam
/changeactionbar 3

Macro3

/cast !Revenge
/changeactionbar 1

Fury Warrior

Macro1; Set to Bar row 1:

/use 13 (if you have an on use trinket)
/castsequence Whirlwind, Bloodthirst, Bloodthirst
/cast Heroic Strike
/startattack
/changeactionbar 2

Macro2; Set to Bar row 2, same position as macro1:

/changeactionbar 3
/cast Slam
/stopcasting Slam

Macro3; Set to Bar row 3 (shift 3 by default), same position as macro 1&2:

/changeactionbar 1
/cast Death Wish

Fix for downtime: Due to the macro perfection you may find yourself in downtime while everything is on CD and you are waiting for heroic strike with your slowass weapons. This can be resolved by beginning a fight with only your mainhand equipped and then equipping your offhand in 1/2 swing time. Note that math suggests that if the weapons don't have the same swing time they will eventually share a common denominator and you will eventually see downtime, but it will be far less.

Survival Hunter

Macro1

/cast !Steady Shot
/changeactionbar 2

Macro2

/cast !Black Arrow
/cast !Rapid Fire
/changeactionbar 3

Macro3

/cast !Multi-Shot (or Aimed Shot if you prefer)
/changeactionbar 4

Macro4

/cast !Explosive Shot
/changeactionbar 1

Fix for skills not being used, Steady Shot taking focus: This can be solved easily by mashing the button faster. If you fear for the safety of your keyboard or your hand, I recommend an auto-clicker that clicks approximately 10 times per second.

Assassination Rogue (simple non-bypass)(class too situation dependent)

Macro1

/castsequence mutilate, sinister strike, mutilate
/cast [target=focus] !tricks of the trade

Combat Rogue

Macro1

/cast Sinister Strike
/changeactionbar 2

Macro2

/cast Killing Spree
/changeactionbar 3

Macro 3

/cast Adrenaline Rush
/changeactionbar 4

Macro4

/cast Blade Flurry
/changeactionbar 1


Elemental Shaman

Macro1

/castsequence Lava Burst, Lava Burst, Flame Shock
/cast !Thunderstorm
/cast !Elemental Mastery
/changeactionbar 2

Macro2

/cast Lightning Bolt
/changeactionbar 1

sincery spud

ps : sry for the statement of the autoclicker .. just copied the text .. found the text in the interwebs and was in hurry while posting

[ebony]

I am just holding out hope that this was just a PTR change, and ,,,, will actually be around in Cata.
Will 4.0.0 come before Cata, or is Cata 4.0.0?

PTR BETA same thing, both useing same files same version infact the PTR is the beta its just useing old world maps atm

Players without the G# keyboards may want to use an autoclicker program and bind it to a convenient key.

if am right and am sure i am right useing autoclickers would get you banned.

if your doing that you might as well just use the g macrio system and add timers.