How will we multibox after /click ,,,,,, is removed in 4.0

[Zub]

seems like it's changing every day.
i think i'll wait for the rollout before starting to think on it ;-)

[suicidesspyder]

Well tbh i lo0ved click but castseq is fine for me. Ive tried with a pally tank shaman healer druid mage shadow priest yea dps was lacking but now with the new jamba its easy. Im lazy to set up a modifier cause i might get confused whos who in the heat of the battle am i right.

But with jamba proc you can set it so each toon has their spam this key right for dps. Then if they proc they have their own button on th action bar they can spam while your spamming dps on the rest. You could do this for all.

Just a thought with click being a no go anymore. I see the only thing that will hurt is if they find a way to get rid of the mouse repeater regions that isboxer uses. To me that makes healing effortless and easy.

[Kalyse]

But with jamba proc you can set it so each toon has their spam this key right for dps. Then if they proc they have their own button on th action bar they can spam while your spamming dps on the rest. You could do this for all.

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I think I will be using Healbot for this with repeater regions.
When I need to force a particular spell to one of my toons, I will run a macro... I just need to find an efficient way to make sure that the spell gets cast.

What do you guys thing of this solution? Healbot for DPS. Only for the individual procs mind you.

[confusedtx5]

Using a couple of ISboxer 'step' functions, a couple of bar buttons and some castsequence null macros it should be possible to get reasonably good dps.
Should that fail, I might have to experiment with 1 button for dots and 1 for nuke/filler spells. With the oceanic latency I run, castsequences have about half a second per cast of dps loss.

As someone else posted earlier, I'm still under the impression that automation is 1 button press to more than 1 action. Going by 1 button press to 1 action, using isboxer steps to determine the order of buttons getting pressed might be ok.

[naPS]

Using a couple of ISboxer 'step' functions, a couple of bar buttons and some castsequence null macros it should be possible to get reasonably good dps.

Yeah, this is exactly what I was thinking. There's effectively no difference in stepping through a castsequence using ISBoxer steps or steps in a macro. It's still 1 button press, 1 action.

However, the only real reason to use the different /click's was to insert the delays possible by using commas. Now that we're losing that functionality, I'm having a difficult time coming up with a reason to even use the /click function. I've almost completed switching all my toons over to a straight /castsequence macro that's getting me very close to the performance I was getting with /click macros.

Gotta love the arcane mages, they couldn't be easier. Warlocks aren't horrible. And, I'm pretty sure I've got the boomkins down as well. Tanking /castsequences are simple as hell, and healing is pretty simple as well. I'm sure we'll all get this sorted once the 4.0.1 patch drops.

[franco]

I tried yesterday to replace my mage /click macros with castsequence, macro itself seems to work just fine, but I'm losing about 1000 DPS.

I believe that the difference is because of lag and the fact rgar castsequence waits for previous spell to finish before doing the next, where as /click will do the spells "faster"

macro I was using is something like:

/stopmacro [channeling]
/use 13
/use 14
/cast icy veins
/cast arcane power
/cast presence of mind
/castsequence [] Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,arcane missiles

I was trying to search another way to avoid the lag issue with castsequence, but /click seemed to be the prefered fix :-/

--franco

[Mosg2]

A few things:

1. The level of elitism coming from the people who don't use click is disgusting. So you did things in a more difficult manner than you could have--Good on you. Don't come here and crap on the people who're trying to brainstorm the easiest legal way to run a team. Shame on you.

2. With ISBoxer you don't need /click. You can get the exact same functionality by using nul spaces. To me, the difficulty with post-4.0 boxing isn't the removal of /click and commas...

3. ...It's the addition of random elements to most/all classes that make simplifying their rotations (from a boxing standpoint) incredibly difficult. I've been dinking around with my Ret Paladin on the PTR and I'm at a loss on how to streamline their DPS sequence to be anywhere near optimal.

[valkry]

A few things:

1. The level of elitism coming from the people who don't use click is disgusting. So you did things in a more difficult manner than you could have--Good on you. Don't come here and crap on the people who're trying to brainstorm the easiest legal way to run a team. Shame on you.

We'd be less elitist if they didn't all act like it is the end of the world and almost ready to quit wow/boxing if it goes. And the examles we gave of how we do it without click is not terribly difficult. Maybe that's why we sound elitist, because we shrug at something that you percieve as quite hard.

[Mosg2]

We'd be less elitist if they didn't all act like it is the end of the world and almost ready to quit wow/boxing if it goes. And the examles we gave of how we do it without click is not terribly difficult. Maybe that's why we sound elitist, because we shrug at something that you percieve as quite hard.

The original post was a well thought out and presented idea and it was met with cynicism and derision. Nobody posted saying they were going to quit the game because of it. The tone with which this thread was responded to was terrible. Also, most people didn't *actually* post a non-click method that they use that gets same/better results--Especially on the PTR.

Call me crazy, but I haven't seen it. The only thing I've seen is people saying don't panic, it will get worked out, and several posts by people who aren't using click now, so it won't be that big of a deal.

Go re-read the first three pages and get back to me on that.

Tell me, did your post do anything to contribute to the discussion or brainstorming? I think not.

Really? Point two was lost on you?

As to your point 3. several folks have already posted about possibly using a spam button, and a proc button for their different toons. It's not the end of the world, and I think we'll be able to work out a sensible way to do it. Procs are fairly easy to manage, just see the druid eclipse solutions that have been developed.

I agree that boxers will find a solution. As a group we're incredibly resourceful when it comes to solving problems... That's what this thread was about.

[naPS]

Go re-read the first three pages and get back to me on that.

Guess I'm just not as sensitive as you are, because I still don't see it.