Quote Originally Posted by Shodokan View Post
Those are not pugs, they are made up of 3-4 top guild's alt's. Theres a big difference. Blood legion and other guilds on our server DO NOT PUG AT ALL. They run in-guild alt runs.

For a pug, we went 6/12 heroic. Not quite 9 but good enough.
There is always going to be one who had to sit out, couldn't make it to mains run or missed the alt run and who still wants to do some bosses. Be it with trade chat scum or other friends, the general level of playing will be higher with some many quality guilds/players around. I've seen several pugs / gdkp runs going 12/12, for a while. That's my only point I wanted to make actually.