Cataclysm: The Ret Paladin- AKA Multi-Box Burst PVP Machines.

[Kromtor]

They are kind of a joke now - but people have been saying lawlret for ages, why stop now? I haven't actually had a chance to test out 4 shockadins but the name wouldn't really fit anymore - it'd be 4 Exodins. Exorcism spam with all your healing haste effects does serious damage as holy, then you've got your holy shocks left over to heal and your WoG's from those. I'd say viable but I just don't know how well it scales at 85

[BrothelMeister]

i've been playing my ret team a little for the hell of it, they're so damn durable even without good resil gear yet

my dk dies first all the time for me despite using death strike, being blood spec, doing all the things a good tank should do. the abominations might buff i still think is the best of all 3 trees for the rets, however, the 8% unholy comes close.
still not making any good use of dark simul, but it has potential i'm sure of it. self cleansing is a must for the snare removal.

Yes, they are very durable, and I'm still under 1800 resilience. 3k is entirely achievable.

They are also going to be making changes to Divine Purpose and Mastery. The Hand of light from mastery will now be associated with Divine purpose, and mastery will instead increase damage from special attacks as additional Holy damage, which cannot be resisted.

Since Ghostcrawler admitted that Ret paladins need a dps increase, I imagine it will only get easier to blow people up post patch.

[remanz]

well. the Tol Barad 1800 madness inflated the entire pvp blue set. Everyone running around with 3000 resilience now.
Combined with double healers popularity in 5s, things are getting tougher.

Holy paladin + any other healer, things are unkillable.

[Shodokan]

Crusader strike = 135% base damage + 35% damage talented + 20% holy damage (base mastery) + (.2 * .3) inquisition = ~ 225% weapon damage

Templars verdict = 235% + 35% damage talented + 15% (glyphed) + 20% holy damage (base mastery) + (.2 * .3) inquisition= ~ 445% weapon damage

That is quite a bit of damage.

[Jeppis]

yeah idd nice amount of damage but controlling 4x inquisition + 4x full holy power for templars verdict is pretty b****s**t :P it's pretty easy but feels like druids eclipse thing before cata changes...

[Kromtor]

what are the feral druid heals actually hitting for at 85? i can't imagine they compare to word of glory - though nothing really compares to rip either which is also a pain in the butt to use to full efficiency on 5 chars

[Shodokan]

what are the feral druid heals actually hitting for at 85? i can't imagine they compare to word of glory - though nothing really compares to rip either which is also a pain in the butt to use to full efficiency on 5 chars

Heals can be good, but no they don't compare to WoG as far as potency, but they also have NO rampup time.

[Multibocks]

what are the feral druid heals actually hitting for at 85? i can't imagine they compare to word of glory - though nothing really compares to rip either which is also a pain in the butt to use to full efficiency on 5 chars

All my characters run from feral druids. I hate those guys, so much damage and healing.

[Kromtor]

no rampup time? im talking about the instant casts feral get - they definitely take rampup time to use the combo points that give you a chance to get them. otherwise you're stuck casting actual heals or HoT's - though I must admit rejuv x4 would be pretty badass. im just curious how weak the feral healing is compared to a real healer. they get some spell power but not nearly as much as a resto.

[Ualaa]

no rampup time? im talking about the instant casts feral get - they definitely take rampup time to use the combo points that give you a chance to get them. otherwise you're stuck casting actual heals or HoT's - though I must admit rejuv x4 would be pretty badass. im just curious how weak the feral healing is compared to a real healer. they get some spell power but not nearly as much as a resto.

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showpost....1&postcount=14

In the blue crafted/AH set, nothing reforged.

Rejuvenation (NE)... 1824/tick
Rejuvenation (Cat)... 2189/tick
Lifebloom (NE)......... 318/tick & 3630 Final
Lifebloom (Cat)........ 382/tick & 4188 Final
Regrowth (NE)........ 4600 Initial & 478/tick
Regrowth (Cat)....... 4600 Initial & 574/tick
Healing Touch (NE) 10,500 healed.

In Cat Form, all my druids are part of the ATG that receives repeater region click heals; so no initial hit of Regrowth/Healing Touch while in Cat Form.

The Healing Touch/Regrowth are instant cast once every 10 seconds, but only ever get the instant cast towards the end of battles where several druids are dead and there's only one or two left; when five are up, (in BG's) nothing lasts beyond the 2nd Mangle. Using: Mangle, Rake, Mangle, Mangle, Rip (97% chance for Regrowth/HealingTouch to be instant after each Rip, in that rotation).

No talents/glyphs for healing, aside from +AGI to healing and +20% healing received while in Kitty.