Cataclysm: The Ret Paladin- AKA Multi-Box Burst PVP Machines.

[Shodokan]

Well Dks are not without their own problems. Since we are in the rets thread, I can lay out some of the bad things about Dks.

1st and foremost, I just don't see playing healer yourself + 4DKs can work. Without a lead => follow, your paladin get CCed, your DK will get into this "stickie targetting mode" IWT will be screwed up. DK will run around like a mad man. You know what I am talking about. "blind on paladin, bam!, DK lost control" need to cleartarget and resync.

2nd , frost DK dies fast. I went from blood => frost. Gain about 1-2k DPS, but lost 12k HP and all my self heal abilities. They are like arm warrior. The defensive CD is just not that effective as far as I used it. They need heals.

Um... frost dks die no faster than any other melee class, including paladins (if playing a single one). Sticky targeting is easy to deal with though, just bind a key (for me to my naga) to a macro that /cleartarget /assist focus

Also back to the dks... my buddy did SOTA by himself and got 62-0... yeah.

[remanz]

Um... frost dks die no faster than any other melee class, including paladins (if playing a single one). Sticky targeting is easy to deal with though, just bind a key (for me to my naga) to a macro that /cleartarget /assist focus

Also back to the dks... my buddy did SOTA by himself and got 62-0... yeah.

i understand how to fix the issue with sticky targetting. The problem is after you "/cleartarget". You need to follow to re-group you guys together after they run off. Say I fight you on the ramp in blade edge arena. I simply jump off the ramp. and your IWT won't get to me because it can't make turns. You need a main to lead them there.

and SOTA 62-0, can't say much about that. Is he alliance with all elite teammates, just farming noob hordes ? You can't death grip seige. And the warlock,mage, and hunter on the seige can just kite/nuke melee all day long in SOTA.

[Mercbeast]

i understand how to fix the issue with sticky targetting. The problem is after you "/cleartarget". You need to follow to re-group you guys together after they run off. Say I fight you on the ramp in blade edge arena. I simply jump off the ramp. and your IWT won't get to me because it can't make turns. You need a main to lead them there.

and SOTA 62-0, can't say much about that. Is he alliance with all elite teammates, just farming noob hordes ? You can't death grip seige. And the warlock,mage, and hunter on the seige can just kite/nuke melee all day long in SOTA.

But Grip solves this very real problem so long as you don't completely escape LOS.

I don't think melee's will be ideal for arena anyways. Too much pillar and LOS humping. DK might be better than other groups due to grip but I think it is still far from ideal.

It is a BG group imo and that is where it will be strongest.

[Shodokan]

i understand how to fix the issue with sticky targetting. The problem is after you "/cleartarget". You need to follow to re-group you guys together after they run off. Say I fight you on the ramp in blade edge arena. I simply jump off the ramp. and your IWT won't get to me because it can't make turns. You need a main to lead them there.

and SOTA 62-0, can't say much about that. Is he alliance with all elite teammates, just farming noob hordes ? You can't death grip seige. And the warlock,mage, and hunter on the seige can just kite/nuke melee all day long in SOTA.

Hes horde on a BG where alliance rule the sea.

[remanz]

I hit 85 during the weekend.

ALl i have to say about retribution paladin is


it DOES shitty Damage , and does mega healing. Compare to enhance shaman, frost dk, and fury warrior, retribution does shittttttty damage. There is no burst. The burst only kicks in when I have 2nd round of 3 HP. (first 3 HP burned on inquisition). and Inquisition is a management nightmare currently for me. I am either having difficulties keeping it up, or wasting TV doing inqusition. Its just not working out as far as offense goes.

My lead frost DK does mega burst, especially when there is more than one target. Without perfect inqusition, holy power management, my paladins do about half DPS as my frost DK HB/OB spam.

On the flip side, rets heal a lot. If you let me hit you, I can keep my team up.