Cataclysm: The Ret Paladin- AKA Multi-Box Burst PVP Machines.

[remanz]

How is unholy's damage. Did the 8% spell damage debuff make any difference to the team ? I tried unholy before. But the damage is a bit low. Plus Unholy uses unholy rune for Scourge Strike. So I can't use necrotic Strike.

AMZ is also nice.

[BrothelMeister]

Unoly rocks, you get more death runes from festering strike, so u actually have more free usage of necrotic strike if you want it, altho with just 1 DK i don't, so far I prefer the massive aoe snare.

[Kromtor]

i've been playing my ret team a little for the hell of it, they're so damn durable even without good resil gear yet

my dk dies first all the time for me despite using death strike, being blood spec, doing all the things a good tank should do. the abominations might buff i still think is the best of all 3 trees for the rets, however, the 8% unholy comes close.
still not making any good use of dark simul, but it has potential i'm sure of it. self cleansing is a must for the snare removal.

[genghiskhan]

so nobody plays 2s or 3s? Just 5s?

[Kromtor]

2's and 3's are even more about CC than 5's in my experience. They're just not very fun compared to the huge damage output that is possible in 5's.

I just went up against what I thought was another multiboxer at first - apparently multiboxers aren't the only ones who have discovered the incredible stacking that is necrotic strike. The 4 DK + 1 holy pally (most of the DK's were unholy) just destroyed me wish ease.

[Zappy]

the abominations might buff i still think is the best of all 3 trees for the rets, however, the 8% unholy comes close.

Unless your DK needs the extra 2% str buff, blessing of might provides the same buff.

[Ualaa]

so nobody plays 2s or 3s? Just 5s?

I'd love to be proved wrong...

But so far, 2's and 3's has been a consistently very horrible set of bracket sizes for boxers.
While, we do at least okay in 5's and some players/compositions can dominate.

[genghiskhan]

Thanks. Ill start out in 5s then. Id love to be a groundbreaker and by no means do i want to be a cookie cutter boxer, but i have alot to learn, especially in arena, before i feel comfortable trying to venture into "new" territory. I want to have 3 or 4 frost dks. Tho i know what i want and what i end up using could be vastly different. Im going to read all of this thread (ive only skimmed it) and all of the dk manifesto (havent read it) and see what i come up with. I love the idea of a dk/pally team. DG your enemy into your blender and ret/prot heal thru incoming damage, it cant get any better

[Kromtor]

Unless your DK needs the extra 2% str buff, blessing of might provides the same buff.

errr sorry about that. been doing the 4 dk 1 pally group too much in which case the abominations might actually is important so your pally is free to use kings. previous poster was correct, blood is somewhat redundant in this comp.

[genghiskhan]

This thread makes my head hurt. Lol. Any update on 4x Shockadins? Cuz from reading this thread and dk manifesto 4x ret or prot pally seems like a joke compared to 4x frost dk.