Cata not so MB friendly

[Zub]

I'm looking forward to the new content regardless of what complications may arise while multiboxxing. Ingenuity will prevail and the community will be sharing tips and tricks left and right.

Precisely my sentiment.
the only thing i'm concerned about is whether my old crappy machines will be able to run all my wow instances.

[confusedtx5]

It will be multiboxable, and hard like when northrend started i'm sure. But remember, blizz wants 5 noobs to be able to clear and see content... you can multibox better than 5 noobs, trust me.

^^ I agree with this. Blizz won't alienate 90% (ish? - random number on my part) of their player base (read: the noobs) by making norm dungeons only do able when you're 2 levels above the 'recommended' level.

[nauren01]

one question on cata - I read somewhere that 10 and 25 raids of the same ini will have the same loot, just the amount is different.

Is that true? That would mean you could get all items with a 10box, I would call that multibox friendly

Of course, if all 10er content would require independant slave movement or action, that wouldn't help much...

[blbjtb]

I used IWT ( interact with target) for that quest and it was easy. Target the bunny..spam IWT until you pick it up..easy shiot! Aso, I'm finding the collection quests easier than wotlk and past. The items are never rare, you never need 30+ or anything. They still will suck for boxers but not as bad as pre cata IMO. The only time they are bad is when there are too few of the said mob(s) in the area. But they have mentioned fixing the spawn rate for those type of quests.

I use IWT as well to box (melee group) your right in the fact that I have not seen a collect 30 xyz except cannon balls which is 50..... However you collect them in groups so its not so bad. Horrid spawn time though ugh. I can only imagine in live how crazy thats going to be.

[blbjtb]

what's one quest in the light of hundred others.
Ever done that quest in Scholazar where you need to catch running chickens? that's a daily on top of that i believe.


Animalus. elder nadox etc. lots of mobs already have immunities and throw aoes and goo. eventually we still get them.


the sky ain't falling mate, stop being mr doom & gloom

All very good points I didnt even do Scholazar basin on my melee group because I did so much pvp =P

Animalus its kinda like him plus nadox just on roids. Then again currently (when i was playing) I could just steam roll them. So yes eventually we will get them there is not a doubt in my mind of that.

The Sky is falling and I can prove it... no wait thats just rain carry on.

[blbjtb]

one question on cata - I read somewhere that 10 and 25 raids of the same ini will have the same loot, just the amount is different.

Is that true? That would mean you could get all items with a 10box, I would call that multibox friendly

Of course, if all 10er content would require independant slave movement or action, that wouldn't help much...

from what I have read yes its the same items just different amounts. Its also the same Raid lock timer....

So ya a 10 boxer could get all of the best gear from raids and what not

Im sure NONE of the content will require independant slave movement.... I think cata is gonna turn in to a turret defense. (sarcasim)

I would be willing to bet you are gonna have to move around in raid content =)

[jinkobi]

I thought in the beta they were making it where you could quest together through phases if you're in the same party?

Collection quests suck for boxers but we've all done it before through WOTLK. They are painful but not like it's going to stop us. If I have to do my guys through those quests one character at a time then that's how it goes. Also heard the drop rates are pretty much 100% now so that's another plus.

Not going to be a walk in the park but I don't think anyone here wants that. For months now I've been bored as hell because there's nothing to do and facerolling heroics forever without any challenge. Most everyone has been so disgusted with how easy the game has become have cancelled until Cata.

Of course nobody wants content that is so hard that they are frustrated just challenged. They also have to keep in mind lots of players suck and can't ramp up things too much where they can't handle it. Normal mode I expect fairly easy on dungeons and heroics to finally feel heroic again.

So early in the beta right now most things are overscaled. Expect tons of nerfs come the end of beta and as the final product gets polished. I think dungeons are harder now in beta because they're trying to test and what you have now is a hybrid of a normal/heroic.

Anyway it's too early to tell. Collection quests won't stop me- gimmick shit where your guys get tossed all over the place is my biggest concern but even then I can see it being done.

[blbjtb]

I thought in the beta they were making it where you could quest together through phases if you're in the same party?

Collection quests suck for boxers but we've all done it before through WOTLK. They are painful but not like it's going to stop us. If I have to do my guys through those quests one character at a time then that's how it goes. Also heard the drop rates are pretty much 100% now so that's another plus.

Not going to be a walk in the park but I don't think anyone here wants that. For months now I've been bored as hell because there's nothing to do and facerolling heroics forever without any challenge. Most everyone has been so disgusted with how easy the game has become have cancelled until Cata.

Of course nobody wants content that is so hard that they are frustrated just challenged. They also have to keep in mind lots of players suck and can't ramp up things too much where they can't handle it. Normal mode I expect fairly easy on dungeons and heroics to finally feel heroic again.

So early in the beta right now most things are overscaled. Expect tons of nerfs come the end of beta and as the final product gets polished. I think dungeons are harder now in beta because they're trying to test and what you have now is a hybrid of a normal/heroic.

Anyway it's too early to tell. Collection quests won't stop me- gimmick shit where your guys get tossed all over the place is my biggest concern but even then I can see it being done.

Lets Break this down in to three parts.

First the drop rates are really close to 100% and the quest guide really does hold your hand. You can also hover over a mob and it will tell you drops XYZ for quest.... This is really nice and has been a vast improvement over the other questing I have done in games.

Second Facerolling heroics..... You are rocking T9 items obviously you are going to rock conent made for T5/6. So if this is a concern for you guess what a few months after cata is released you will be right back to this step.

Lastly, I have done the single collection quest one at a time its not a big deal I look at as "well I only have to do it this one time."

So Cata not so friendly
BUT
Cata obviously do able.

[Multibocks]

I have done almost all of Vashir now and it's a cool zone but fuck if there isnt a crapload of collection quests. And a few "vehicle" quests where you control a Naga and pwn some fools. One series of quests have you liberating a giant turtle thingie from its Naga infection. Seriously you go inside the turtle and do a bunch of quests. I was hoping for a badass cut scene when you finished, but nothing happened. Ah well.

But ya, I dread this zone for boxing. There was a couple points with only 3 people fighting for the same ground spawns and it was fucking ridiculous. Can't wait for launch, lol.

Oh and one more point: Leveling seemed to be pretty fast. I did 80-82 in about 5 hours. I'm 83 now and can't wait to try Uldum and the other zones they just released =D

[jinkobi]

Lets Break this down in to three parts.

First the drop rates are really close to 100% and the quest guide really does hold your hand. You can also hover over a mob and it will tell you drops XYZ for quest.... This is really nice and has been a vast improvement over the other questing I have done in games.

Second Facerolling heroics..... You are rocking T9 items obviously you are going to rock conent made for T5/6. So if this is a concern for you guess what a few months after cata is released you will be right back to this step.

Lastly, I have done the single collection quest one at a time its not a big deal I look at as "well I only have to do it this one time."

So Cata not so friendly
BUT
Cata obviously do able.

I was facerolling heroics with the exception of ICC 5mans in ver substandard gear. Didn't even do normal modes and took my team right into WOTLK heroics in quest blues and greens. They pretty much just used whatever dropped until they accumulated emblems. My point really is it was a faceroll well before my gear overshadowed the place.

Back in TBC if you walked into a heroic with quest blues/greens you'd get your ass kicked.