Question about mouse repeater when using 2 machines

[Zub]

Worked out my problem!! I'm guessing it's the same as yours too.

In ISBoxer... at the top expand repeater Profiles, you should have a Default one there. Click on it, now down the bottom, under Character Sets.... I had two character sets.. the toons on my main pc and the toons on my second computer. I removed the character set for the toons from the second computer... (so only one character set in it..) Did copy + export to all computers.. and it's all working fine now.

unfortunately i have already removed the repeater profile from my (slave's) character set, so only the main machine character set appears in that list (along with another 2 that are independent from this setup not started together)
thanks for sharing however

[Harrypott]

hmm may not have fixed it after all....

I'll do some more testing and maybe re create everything at some point.

I gather one should be able to send a mouse repeater region to multiple computers without jittering issues? as in a 5x shaman healing via grid and clique?

Thanks

Harry

[Zub]

yep this is really starting to piss me off >.<
no idea what i'm doing wrong.

has anyone got repeater regions working (actually in use, not theory) and is willing to share their xml file?
make sure you block out the account names and email addresses.
that would allow me to compare item by item.

in the meantim, i can't heal using the regions as my mouse goes crazy as soon as i'm over one.

how do we disable the mouse on the slave machine? since there are 2 machines there will always be 2 mice trying to get the focus won't there?

[Lax]

Repeater Regions are stored separately in different XML files per character in the IS Scripts folder, not in your ISBoxer config itself.

I think you may have misunderstood what I said in my previous reply, and I don't know how your config is set up to tell you what's wrong exactly. I'll explain with more detail.

The window you are physically moving your mouse in at the time is the only one that needs a Repeater Region, and if you're using it for healing, you should select the healer (or the healer's ATG) for the Target after checking "Block local click", and then click Add. Note that you can't edit these options after your region is already made; if you are creating a region and then trying to edit it later, this would be one potential reason for your confusion.

You do not need to click Sync for the region to work, it's just going to work already from the window you made it in. The reason to click Sync is if you are going to be physically clicking in a different window, and you need THAT window to automatically send the mouse from that region to the healer also. You can remove the region from any given windows after Syncing: Go to that window, hit the in-game GUI toggle hotkey (ctrl+shift+alt+g by default from the wizard) and click the X on the region. Note that while the GUI is toggled on, the title bar on the region shows the Target for the region. If the target is all or all other, then this is probably the problem.

You do not need to "disable the mouse on the slave machine" -- mouse repeat is off by default, you're configuring it to be enabled at the time (this is the problem) -- you just need to make sure they aren't fighting over mouse repeat. There's a few different ways that might be happening. First, if your repeater region is present in the foreground/active window on both PCs, and the Target of those regions includes the foreground/active window on the opposite PC, they are going to fight. If you have Mouse Repeat enabled in the foreground/active window on both PCs, they are going to fight. If you have Mouse Repeat enabled in the foreground/active window on the second PC, and the first PC has a Repeater Region that sends to that window, they are going to fight.

If you configured hotkeys in your Repeater Profile, or you changed the "startup defaults", these would be potential reasons why the problem might happen.

I gather one should be able to send a mouse repeater region to multiple computers without jittering issues? as in a 5x shaman healing via grid and clique?

If you're trying to heal with all of your guys via a Repeater Region on multiple PCs, you will need to pick a PC to control from, because if the region is on all and sending to all, they're all going to be fighting.

The entire issue here is that ISBoxer does not have the ability to determine which of the mice is doing the actual movement, so only one PC at a time should be doing the broadcasting or it's going to be jittery. Joe Multiboxer does have this ability and will have such no problems with mouse broadcasting on multiple computers.

[Zub]

Repeater Regions are stored separately in different XML files per character in the IS Scripts folder, not in your ISBoxer config itself.<br />
<br />
I think you may have misunderstood what I said in my previous reply, and I don't know how your config is set up to tell you what's wrong exactly. I'll explain with more detail.<br />
<br />
The window you are physically moving your mouse in at the time is the only one that needs a Repeater Region, and if you're using it for healing, you should select the healer (or the healer's ATG) for the Target after checking &quot;Block local click&quot;, and then click Add. Note that you can't edit these options after your region is already made; if you are creating a region and then trying to edit it later, this would be one potential reason for your confusion.<br />
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You do not need to click Sync for the region to work, it's just going to work already from the window you made it in. The reason to click Sync is if you are going to be physically clicking in a different window, and you need THAT window to automatically send the mouse from that region to the healer also. You can remove the region from any given windows after Syncing: Go to that window, hit the in-game GUI toggle hotkey (ctrl+shift+alt+g by default from the wizard) and click the X on the region. Note that while the GUI is toggled on, the title bar on the region shows the Target for the region. If the target is all or all other, then this is probably the problem.<br />
<br />
You do not need to &quot;disable the mouse on the slave machine&quot; -- mouse repeat is off by default, you're configuring it to be enabled at the time (this is the problem) -- you just need to make sure they aren't fighting over mouse repeat. There's a few different ways that might be happening. First, if your repeater region is present in the foreground/active window on both PCs, and the Target of those regions includes the foreground/active window on the opposite PC, they are going to fight. If you have Mouse Repeat enabled in the foreground/active window on both PCs, they are going to fight. If you have Mouse Repeat enabled in the foreground/active window on the second PC, and the first PC has a Repeater Region that sends to that window, they are going to fight.<br />
<br />
If you configured hotkeys in your Repeater Profile, or you changed the &quot;startup defaults&quot;, these would be potential reasons why the problem might happen.<br />
<br />
<br />
If you're trying to heal with all of your guys via a Repeater Region on multiple PCs, you will need to pick a PC to control from, because if the region is on all and sending to all, they're all going to be fighting.<br />
<br />
The entire issue here is that ISBoxer does not have the ability to determine which of the mice is doing the actual movement, so only one PC at a time should be doing the broadcasting or it's going to be jittery. <a href="http://joemultiboxer.com" target="_blank">Joe Multiboxer</a> does have this ability and will have such no problems with mouse broadcasting on multiple computers.

right, that makes sense and i think i understand it all.
I believe i might be creating my regions wrong, and or at least from the wrong toons.
I can't try this right now, but i'll give it a shot as soon as i can acces my comp.

thanks Lax, will post how it went

[Harrypott]

Thanks for the great explanation Lax, makes me understand it heaps more and will try to re configure it tomorrow when I'm back to my pc.

[Zub]

Ok here's my feedback.

Thanks to that last comment Lax, i believe it does now work as intended, and I'm not getting any jittery mouse action.

basically i had the concept of the repeater regions wrong, i thought you created a region that was automatically replicated on all machines (and that seemed the case as i always 'sync'ed my RR) whereas in fact it's just a region to replicate whatever comes from that wow instance.
In short, RR are not global for all wows as i thought, but instead are specific to a wow window and passed to a specific set of other wow windows.
Not sure i'm writing this clearly, but the concept is clear in my head i think

So now i have couple questions to make best use of them.
I have my main on one machine (say Machine A:1) and 4 slaves on the other machine (lets say MachineB:1, MachineB:2, MachineB:3 and MachineB:4)
My healer is on Machine B:4.

so on MachineA:1 i've created a RR on top of my grid bars for my healer to click heal with clique.
Now when i create it, what target should I use? I only can select either 'all targets' or '1'?
for now i've used 'all target' as it doesn't matter if my dps click the grid as well (since they have FTL targetting) but wondering if that's the way to go.

Since i want to be able to lead from any toon (and heal the same way) i'ce also created RR from each of the other DPS toons (MachineB:1-3)
This was a no brainer as the target dropdown showed the number '4' (my healer) and i could just create that RR easily.

Now, is the fact taht all those regions are on top of each other a problem?
doesn't seem to affect the mouse, but wondering.

thanks again
-Zub

[Zub]

Yep, i confirm that everything seems to be working fine now, thanks Lax for persevering with me :-)

only question i have (which I tried to explain above >.<), is how do i make a region from my main (on machine A) to a specific toon on machine B, since the 'target' is not listed in the in game GUI

[Harrypott]

Zub I'm guessing Lax will say u can do it via "Action Target Group", check out the ISBoxer web site forums, there's a number of posts on it and how to set it up.

[Harrypott]

Think I got my mouse regions working well now. I was clicking sync when creating it, and since I had it going to all windows the active screen on the second pc was trying to repeat it again I guess. So just created it on the tank screen and didn't click sync, working well so far.

Thanks Lax and Zub