4x DK + Healer vs. Dk + 4x ret

[remanz]

Well, I have a guest pass for Starcraft 2 from a friend and I'm downloading SC2 as we speak. I hope to god I will like that game more than WoW so I can say goodbye forever to this money and time sink called WoW

SC2 would not disappoint. Campaign is long and fun. Multi player is very competitive. Once sucked in, it will keep you busy for a few months. Playing with friends is a lot of fun.

all that, for free.

It is not all about the twitchy game play reflex and stuff (Warcraft 3). There are a lot of macro, strategies, and tricks.

[tanknspanker]

ok, so i just made a 5dk setup atm, and i am already surprised, (at lvl 58)
just made some round robins, like deathgrip, mind freeze, chains of ice, and it is incredible!
i love it


i would suggest anyone who wants to try it... DO IT ^^
you'll enjoy it

<3

[zenga]

i guess you are talking about pvp? ^^

... since it's in the 'pvp discussion' category, who knows ...

tbh, i don't think you should look at the burst output a team can make, but at the survive chances ..

If you kill something, it means it's dead and you should no longer worry about your survivability. The faster you kill it, the less survivability you need. So burst does matter a lot for melee teams. If you run towards casters, you want them dead from the first try. Any slow, fear, cc, ... will require you to regroup and give them time to nuke you. Unless you go with protadins & heavy healers, where the build is centered around outlasting the opponent. Don't underestimate to factor in the importance of death grip on round robin, which makes that you don't need to run towards ranged every 12 (3dk) / 9 seconds, and which can even be glyphed

[tanknspanker]

If you kill something, it means it's dead and you should no longer worry about your survivability. The faster you kill it, the less survivability you need. So burst does matter a lot for melee teams. If you run towards casters, you want them dead from the first try. Any slow, fear, cc, ... will require you to regroup and give them time to nuke you. Unless you go with protadins & heavy healers, where the build is centered around outlasting the opponent. Don't underestimate to factor in the importance of death grip on round robin, which makes that you don't need to run towards ranged every 12 (3dk) / 9 seconds, and which can even be glyphed

ok you are right, but was thinking of arena...
lets put that 1 target is dead.. and its the healer, got still 4 dpses at your a$$

and sorry 'bout my stupid question for pvp

[Shodokan]

ok you are right, but was thinking of arena...
lets put that 1 target is dead.. and its the healer, got still 4 dpses at your a$$

and sorry 'bout my stupid question for pvp

For arena you'd need to go frost i think on the dks. The thing is if you run into 4v5 and you are still getting heals your 4 burst + heal > 4 burst.

[tanknspanker]

For arena you'd need to go frost i think on the dks. The thing is if you run into 4v5 and you are still getting heals your 4 burst + heal > 4 burst.

but i thought frost BOOM spec was nerfed ?
let me know though, i might do it for bg's ^^
x3

[ghonosyph]

Frost dk as it CURRENTLY stands on live servers is a lot of fun, a LOT. I think Any spec is good for dks, but frost is the most fun given that the sheer amount of control you have over opponents. You get chill blains, free cost interrupts, lichborne for fear breaking, deathgrips(you can even spec into unholy for reduced cooldown on dg) hungering cold spam, howling blasts frost strikes pewpewpew. I have often just kited people to death running big circles around them lol its a lot of fun. Currently you can still spec into blood tree far enough to get all the two hander talents AND rune tap/imp rune tap. Although this is going away in cataclysm, right now its very strong with glyph if you get your team in the same group its a BIG party heal every 30 seconds, coupled with all the control, if you get in trouble start kiting/cc and heal up then zerg back in. Fun times indeed!

As for the "frost BOOM spec" lol wtf are you talking about :P I've been playing my dks since wotlk release and i've never heard of a frost boom spec ! :P lolol

[tanknspanker]

there was a time frost 2hander was op and then they nerfed it ddue i'm serious

[Shodokan]

there was a time frost 2hander was op and then they nerfed it ddue i'm serious

Thats a lie, frost dual wield before was OP as hell for pve, PVP wise the only nerf was that frost strike nolonger is a 100% chance to hit no matter what.

[tanknspanker]

Thats a lie, frost dual wield before was OP as hell for pve, PVP wise the only nerf was that frost strike nolonger is a 100% chance to hit no matter what.

ok ^^ sorry then

just putted my dk team into frost, and indeed, it is NICE
i saw my dps increase with at least 100 at lvl 60..
frost strike and howling blast are awesome