Talking to Bornakk about Raid Rewards in Cata

[ghonosyph]

I completely understand, and even accept, I won't get the full bonuses, as I intend on keeping my own guild to myself. But the question remains, and I've yet to see a single valid answer to is why should small guilds be discouraged? What harm have they done? How have they failed to meet up to the expectations of what a guild is or should be?

And in WHAT way are small guilds being "discouraged"? Bigger guilds have more people, more options, more achievements, more access to the rewards?

... why? because they have MORE people. The rate of return is higher, why? Because blizzard wants to punish players for being in a small guild right? No, thats doubtful. In fact, the rate of return on leveling the guild is going to be adjusted, its still in beta and there are still changes to come. To say you're being punished from staying in small groups is silly imo, i see no punishment from the implementation, just that bigger is better... for obvious reasons.

Even more so, for those small guilds that genuinely are 5 or so people, by what measure have you discounted their comradery over a guild of 100 people. In fact, I'd go so far as to argue that the community spirit inside a 5 person guild is likely to far exceed the almost stranger-like association of a guild of 500 people.

I've got no doubt about this. The statement was made short due to my cell phone not quite having enough power to finish the train of thought. I used to be in a casual raiding guild, 10 man strictly. It was some of the best times in wow i've ever experienced. We raided kara religiously, and we did well. Did we ever do The eye, or black temple? no, absolutely not. We pugged more for gruuls lair on occasion, but it was always fun no matter wipes or whatever. There's nothing wrong with having a small guild, but to say that you're being punished because you cant get all the best rewards as fast or as a large guild might be able doesn't mean thats a punishment. It means that a larger guild has more access, because they have more options, because they have a plenty more people. I'm VERY sure that bliz will change the way these guild things work before beta ends and things will work out a little differently.

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the idea behind guild vaults is not to give single players more storage space... moreover a single player (regardless of the number of characters) does not comprise a guild. you may be able to have a guild with only a single character in it but that is surely not the intention of the mechanic. <--- THIS right here is the reason i see most 5 boxers are arguing about this guild perk thing. Its NOT the intention of the mechanic, and most seem to argue "i like my guild because i have access to my own guild bank" ... make an alt and store your stuff, then join a guild with some friends? I like being solo, but i also enjoy my raiding guild. I have friends in game, lots of them.

The attitudes of " why should i have to" are imo foolish and arrogant. You shouldn't have to... you DON'T have to... If you want full advantage of all the awesomeness, join a guild, make relationships/friends! Blizzard WANTS people to be social... its part of the experience of a multimassive online rpg. Just because multiboxing allows us to play the game as if it were basically solo, doesn't really mean its a solo game. amirite?