Cata- New Talent Trees.

[HPAVC]

I just knew the trees were going to have a strong 'put all talents in one tree' appeal.

[Maxion]

This personally will be my spec for my shamans http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?shaman#k0qSmmv9,,12479



So go check out Mmo-Champion.com and play around with the specs! >.<

Don't you need elemental precision though? Didn't they say there would be no more mail caster hit gear so you share gear with resto and want spirit for hit?
Maybe I missed something.

[raylion]

Very much liking the Boomkin tree, especially the Solar Beam, Starsurge and the revision to Eclipse. My 5 drood team have been sitting in the low 70s for some time now - time to get those cows to 80!

[Owltoid]

Cookie cutter forced.
Talents wasted unless you play the cookie cutter way.
Most concerns about the change verified.

That sum up the new system enough? Ya, it's QQ... it's a discussion forum. QQ belongs here when changes are bad.

[Littleburst]

Atm it just seems stupid. First i was pretty positive, But now i really don't understand why this should give us any advantage? There's absolutely no way that you're not forced to take specific talents now. imo it's the same story, only now hybrid doesn't exist anymore.

[Souca]

All I gotta say is:
Elemental Devastation

So glad they got rid of those useless talents.

[Tonuss]

I like that the description for Elemental Mastery still says it shares a cooldown with Nature's Swiftness.

[Starbuck_Jones]

Paladin: First glance I am disappointed. Not enough points to get the tanking cleave, Not enough points to max out the prot tree. Forced to take all the cool down reduction talents so theres not enough points to take some of the more interesting talents. No more Divine Sacrifice/cancel aura raid cool down. I don't like that ardent defender is no longer passive but now a cool down because of sloppy healers I have to look out for. I thought they were making it so you did not have to talent out to be crit immune, but Holy Shield has a 6% crit reduction added to it. Lack of overall talents so there are not really raid builds vs casual builds. Hybrid specs are dead if they force that 31 talent rule.

However its early and the talents are not complete and i'm sure there will be talent wipes all through wow 4.0 like they did with the death knights in lich king.

[Multibocks]

Cookie cutter forced.
Talents wasted unless you play the cookie cutter way.
Most concerns about the change verified.

That sum up the new system enough? Ya, it's QQ... it's a discussion forum. QQ belongs here when changes are bad.

Depends on which class you are talking about, prot pally actually has a LOT of ways it can play out. I see some talents I would take differently than the first post for elemental too. But lets be honest, I bet everyone here has specc'd their shaman within 1 or 2 points. So cookie cutter now is better than cookie cutter later eh?

[Multibocks]

Oh and did anyone see the DK tanking tree?! Holy SHIT, Im expecting lots and lots of nerfs.