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    Default Why Are We Hated So Much?

    I am currently tri-boxing ele-shamans. More often than not the tank or tank/heals will ask if I'm multiboxing then drop group immediately after. I lose a tank/heal atleast one out of four groups and catch flak in others. People hate multiboxers. Other than them getting smashed in pvp does anyone know why this is?

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    Jealousy I think. Most people on my server have been nice enough when it comes to Multiboxing, always asking how it's done more so then anything.

    But you have to remember, People just love to bitch. I ignore them and move on.

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    I think most people are tolerant or at the least indifferent. When I first came back to boxing I had no issues at all. It wasn't until I started 5 boxing again that people started speaking up a bit. Out of those that get upset, most don't know that it's an accepted playstyle. I'll get the typical "Hax," "Cheat Much," along with other ignorant comments. I don't bother trying to convert people anymore. I turn off the chat bubbles, say chat, whisper, bg chats and any of the general chats. If I don't see it... I don't care. Anyone but my guildies becomes a NPC. I queue for randoms with my guildies (my kids), and I don't box pug raids.

    If you have trouble finding a guildies to run with you, and feel like transferring or starting some freshies, you're more than welcome to come box with my guild on Firetree. There are four of us and the other 3 don't box, but are used to running with a boxer. I have toons on both sides, though I just started playing Alliance. Actually just started 5 Nelf Druids. One im boosting RAF style. The other 4 I'm leveling normally because I've never done the alliance quests.

    Anyway, good luck man.

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    My server is very tolerant of multiboxers. But since I'm the only one on the server it isn't too big of a deal, lol.

    Although I have been very open about multiboxing on the forums and people have been surprisingly receptive. Most people are very iinterested and as always direct them to dualboxing.com to get educated ;D
    Jinkobi on Shadowsong-US.

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    Most of it, IMO, is people in general lacking the ability to deal with things outside of the established norms. The rest of it is just them breaking down into type after not being able to deal with us intellectually. It's really interesting listening to the range of responses you get after doing certain things as a multiboxer.
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    It's a mixture of ignorance and arrogance.

    Ignorance in that some people simply won't know what you're doing and will assume it's cheating, and arrogance in people who do know what you're doing, but believe their opinion matters more than Blizzards.

    The ignorant types can be educated. The arrogant types are not worth responding to, or ever worrying about.
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    Bad first impressions combined with ignorance.

    A person is playing his character in a contested zone or a battleground. He gets steamrolled by five characters that seem suspiciously like they're being run by a bot. His anger at being so casually one-shot is made worse by his belief that the person who did it is cheating. When he learns about multiboxing, he already has a very negative view of it, and is unlikely to consider the issue rationally.

    Or...

    A person is playing his character on a PVE server and watches as a group of characters that look suspiciously like bots run around nuking everything in sight. His first impression is that it's a gold farmer who is botting characters to grind gold or items. When he learns about multiboxing... see above.

    I would guess that most people are very inflexible in how they reason these things out. They follow their first impression and often refuse to change, perhaps out of stubbornness, or pride, or just flat out stupidity. If you've ever followed the debates on the forums, you will notice that a good number of people use an argument like "I don't care what you say, it's cheating (or automation) and it's wrong." In other words, they made up their mind and they're not about to let things like logic and knowledge get in the way. That, to me, is the sign of someone who is upset over something that happened and has let that experience color their point of view without even trying to understand or be reasonable.

    So the short answer is: People are stupid.
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    If I get some hate my usual reply is "Yes, I run a full group so I don't need to party with idiots like you". Usually works miracles.

    Other than that, most people that know me on my server are quite happy to see me around... except the guy that says my totems make his FPS go down and he barely can play when around me
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    First, why aren't you queuing them all as dps+healer or dps x2 and healer only? I am sure you would be well served by this change. The second to rule out a heal only guy joining.

    Anyways dungeon queues are often all about turning the instance around quickly and not messing around with bs. If I am in a group with some guy that might be an issue, forget it I am gone (might be the response people have). That would be what I would get out of the drops in your queues.

    Sure multiboxing is likely what gives them a doubt, but that's really all someone needs to have to drop a group. In the era of people waiting hours for 5+k gear scores to come knocking for crap raids, this has got to be expected.

    The queue issue, not sure its ignorance entirely really, anymore than people wanting 5+k gear scores for almost every raid possible. Sure those people will be waiting for what seems like forever and that might be 'ignorant' that the content might be well in reach of half that gear score and that they would be done with the raid already if they had picked up people. But I can see their point in point in trying to weed out possible problems, especially if tanks can actual charge for queues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerwar View Post
    If I get some hate my usual reply is "Yes, I run a full group so I don't need to party with idiots like you". Usually works miracles.

    Other than that, most people that know me on my server are quite happy to see me around... except the guy that says my totems make his FPS go down and he barely can play when around me
    yup... I am going to take a week off and really start hammering the druid team shortly then the two of us can go and steamroll BG's like crazy


    I have had a couple of people come running up asking me whats going on. A few seem to think that I am cheating and one guy even said I was disrespecting the game by boxing... I mean, I have 6 solo level 80's I have levelled up and some of them are very well geared. I raid on 4 of them with the other 2 only being part time low level raiders so how could I be disrespecting the game by deciding that I wanted to be able to do instances without having to do them with some of the pug idiots you get out there.

    I rarely pvp so I cant be accused of ganging up on people and the like.

    I like the people who ask questions... dislike the idiots who think that I am cheating.

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