Is 4rets+tank this easy at 80?

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Keep in mind they are, in my humble opinion, still quite gear dependent and that goes especially for their weapons. For example, while Shamans can get by with a (relatively) low-quality weapon, it really holds back all-Paladin teams.

On the other side of course, once you do get high-quality weapons they run rampant. Stupidly, I put weapons last, preferring to spend time running Heroics for more badges to replace equipment (and outside of ICC heroics, there's no weapons to be had that exceed the i200 epic craftables you make at 80).

Only after running out of Triumph gear to buy did I run normal PoS for i219 weapons for my team, then Heroic PoS for my Prots i232 and finally now equip all my Rets with the i251 Battered Hilt jobbies (as well as 25 bloody runs getting my i219 prot shield out of Normal HoR... lol).

The difference has been eye-popping with each Ret pulling 6k+ DPS and my Prot around 4K DPS on my last ICC10 rep farming run and completely thrashing Heroics.

If you make an All-Pally team my suggestion is that as soon as you possibly can, farm out Normal PoS for the i219 weapons (both prot and ret drop there). More than any armour piece it'll make the biggest difference.

Maybe the weapon was the icing on top of the armor cake. All your Triumphent gear shot up all your stats already.

I ran forge of Souls 3 nights ago at 79. Grean and Blue quest gears, none was over i175 blue. It took all CDs and CCs to take down the mobs. Souladapts were like tanks. One wipe, lost control with the pallys running all over. The first boss just raped me S&M style. It was like he had 5 dildos tether to an electrical cord.

To OP, the first 25 Champion Seals are easier to get since the patch. Start doing the Argent Tournament dailys when you get to 77. Do the Black Knight quest line. Depending on your play time, you should have 25 Seals for a i200 purple when you hit 80.