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  1. #11

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    Indeed, at lvl 80 around 5k gearscore I finally got dual spec and tried something else than frost, hence the arcane offspec.
    With arcane, the mage got maybe about 1k more dps than frost, so went from 5k to 6k, or there abouts, but instead of having the unlimited mana as frost, the mage would go oom at least twice per bossfight, using mana gems and evocate etc every cooldown. And that is really not something I want to have to deal with/worry about when multiboxing.

    And until the gear started getting up there, the frost mage was usually topping dps, closely followed by the ele shaman, which eventually gained a lead on the mage as her gear improved.
    Not sure how much dps my shaman did last time I ran her solo in a raid, so I can't quite compare with how the mage did when I ran her solo arcane in a raid, since I wasn't running recount either of the runs.
    Last edited by Maxion : 07-08-2010 at 05:07 PM
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  2. #12

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    Well I ran arcane last night and did over double the dps. As you said the only issue is mana. Overall I am happier with arcane as it helps with the shorter fights and I have actually cleared quite a few dungeons now, at or near level, while leveling this new team.

  3. #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by crowdx View Post
    Well I ran arcane last night and did over double the dps. As you said the only issue is mana. Overall I am happier with arcane as it helps with the shorter fights and I have actually cleared quite a few dungeons now, at or near level, while leveling this new team.
    And with my mage as frost, my team was clearing dungeons in northrend as high as 4 levels above them, but our results will of course vary

    Just use what you feel is easiest/best for you and gives you the synergy you want in your team without taking too much of your attention to manage.
    I'm going to live forever, or die trying.
    5 Shaman Northrend Heroics - My YouTube Channel - Details about my setup (outdated)
    T2 Heroics: lvl 80 Heroics wearing lvl 60 armour
    Running 5-6 accounts on one computer, currently playing Horde on US-Skywall.
    My main teams:
    5x Shamans lvl 85
    5-class team lvl 100: Paladin, Druid, Shaman, Mage, Priest

  4. #14

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    My arcane mage does not run out of mana. I have in his macro the use mana gem and make sure you do not have reset=target. You want to cast 3 arcane blast followed by a missle. When I first started out and had huge mana isssues it was because I had reset=target so the mage mostly just cast arcane blast draining my mana. Once I fixed that he is fine.
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  5. #15

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinotnoir View Post
    My arcane mage does not run out of mana. I have in his macro the use mana gem and make sure you do not have reset=target. You want to cast 3 arcane blast followed by a missle. When I first started out and had huge mana isssues it was because I had reset=target so the mage mostly just cast arcane blast draining my mana. Once I fixed that he is fine.
    As I said, even with such a rotation and using all available mana cooldowns every cooldown, the mana is still not as sustainable without anyone in the group providing replenishment (when the mage is frost that is where I get my replenishment).
    I'm going to live forever, or die trying.
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    T2 Heroics: lvl 80 Heroics wearing lvl 60 armour
    Running 5-6 accounts on one computer, currently playing Horde on US-Skywall.
    My main teams:
    5x Shamans lvl 85
    5-class team lvl 100: Paladin, Druid, Shaman, Mage, Priest

  6. #16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxion View Post
    As I said, even with such a rotation and using all available mana cooldowns every cooldown, the mana is still not as sustainable without anyone in the group providing replenishment (when the mage is frost that is where I get my replenishment).
    Wow that blows. I did not have that problem. Make sure your shaman drops mana totem every bit helps.
    “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
    Epicurus

  7. #17

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    Meh, arcane is just the offspec for now, I never needed to use blessing of wisdom nor mana totem, since cleansing is so much more handy a lot of the time, and do not plan on any major changes to my setup any time soon.
    I'm going to live forever, or die trying.
    5 Shaman Northrend Heroics - My YouTube Channel - Details about my setup (outdated)
    T2 Heroics: lvl 80 Heroics wearing lvl 60 armour
    Running 5-6 accounts on one computer, currently playing Horde on US-Skywall.
    My main teams:
    5x Shamans lvl 85
    5-class team lvl 100: Paladin, Druid, Shaman, Mage, Priest

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