Shodokan's Army - Cataclysm Preperation & Discussion

[Shodokan]

So the "no specialty" is changing to tailors being able to produce 6 types of cloth each day? And no multiples getting created when the tailor crafts a single item?
Will alchemy still have a specializtion?

No, tailors get 6 PER WEEK.
Alchemy still has specializations SO FAR.

[crowdx]

so not even a piece of cloth per day? Well that is surely going to drive the price of cloth back up again? Was it not a 3 day cooldown before they removed it for the last special cloths?

[Sam DeathWalker]

I will not have 1 JC toon, i will have at least 15 to 20 at 78 ready to do the JC dailys. That means on day 1 I get 20 cuts(if it is like wrath). So this also means if it is like wrath within 10 days i will have EVERY cut in the game. (55 non meta)

Well that is going to be very profitable off the bat untill others also have all the cuts, you will make a lot when you have limited competition. Well maybe Ill make like 5 JC so I have a group to do the dailies. I spent so so so much on titanium ore to get all my cuts ....

[Firstcow]

Shodo, just out of curiosity, why the need for so much gold?

Also, keep in mind that if you start sponsoring other people with gold/etc, the moment you stop, they will be gone. Helping out now and then is healthy to build relationships, but almost complete support is unhealthy. They will become like spoiled kids who throw a tantrum the moment the candy stops coming to them.

Besides, that will not make you famous/infamous or gain you respect, respect is gained when you don't give a shit about what other people think about you (i.e. another word for that is self-confidence), and you continue to do your own thing and you are happy and people see that you are happy the way you are without asking for approval for your actions.

I'm not trying to discourage you from your plan, just be careful what expectations you have from people when you start supplying them with unlimited amounts of gold.

There's a book called Selfish Gene that describes so well what we humans are really made of. Nobody really gives a shit about nobody else but self. So don't expect to receive back what you give. You will get some back but it will always feel like you give more than you receive. That's why some say the best mindset is to consider the giving act to be the reward itself, seeing how your act of giving makes other people happy or whatever.

[Shodokan]

Shodo, just out of curiosity, why the need for so much gold?

Also, keep in mind that if you start sponsoring other people with gold/etc, the moment you stop, they will be gone. Helping out now and then is healthy to build relationships, but almost complete support is unhealthy. They will become like spoiled kids who throw a tantrum the moment the candy stops coming to them.

Besides, that will not make you famous/infamous or gain you respect, respect is gained when you don't give a shit about what other people think about you (i.e. another word for that is self-confidence), and you continue to do your own thing and you are happy and people see that you are happy the way you are without asking for approval for your actions.

I'm not trying to discourage you from your plan, just be careful what expectations you have from people when you start supplying them with unlimited amounts of gold.

There's a book called Selfish Gene that describes so well what we humans are really made of. Nobody really gives a shit about nobody else but self. So don't expect to receive back what you give. You will get some back but it will always feel like you give more than you receive. That's why some say the best mindset is to consider the giving act to be the reward itself, seeing how your act of giving makes other people happy or whatever.

They are mostly all friends either IRL or i've known in game for >1 year. They have all helped me quite a bit. Everyone is narcissistic in some way i'm aware but they all know the limitations to the system i'm putting in place. Unlimited = no. Everyone will have a cap of what i will give them per month which carries over with helping a maximum of one main + 1 alt.

As to why i need so much gold? I really don't...it's just part of the game i enjoy... being rich.

[thefunk]

personally I'm not that into Sodokan's posts, mainly due to the fact a) I don't have the time to do what he does, and by extension b) it sounds like he's showing off. Also a lot of his posts are or sound like he is theorycrafting and I personally prefer someone telling us what they have done, not what they plan on doing in the future. Otherwise I could easily do the same, with no-one much the wiser.

HOWEVER

With someone THAT committed to WOW I think he does bring some good ideas to the forums and therefore shouldn't necessarily be criticised for number of posts or sumsuch. Bad analogy but a bit like having Maradona on your team, who can achieve great things but can be very frustrating as well.

Good luck mate, I'd personally would like to hear more of your operational workings rather than gold making goals (like macros, etc...)

[Shodokan]

personally I'm not that into Sodokan's posts, mainly due to the fact a) I don't have the time to do what he does, and by extension b) it sounds like he's showing off. Also a lot of his posts are or sound like he is theorycrafting and I personally prefer someone telling us what they have done, not what they plan on doing in the future. Otherwise I could easily do the same, with no-one much the wiser.

HOWEVER

With someone THAT committed to WOW I think he does bring some good ideas to the forums and therefore shouldn't necessarily be criticised for number of posts or sumsuch. Bad analogy but a bit like having Maradona on your team, who can achieve great things but can be very frustrating as well.

Good luck mate, I'd personally would like to hear more of your operational workings rather than gold making goals (like macros, etc...)

all my math and ideas i posted previously were proven factual.

[Oathbreaker]

Deviant has been nice enough to host on his home server a database for all materials needed along with a user interface for showing where items are in what guild bank (we are using 4 of them) and I'd like to give him a special shout out because of all of his hard work on that.

I'm curious about this. Tell me more, please.

[Shodokan]

I'm curious about this. Tell me more, please.

It's just that... a database saying what we have and what we need.

[zenga]

he probably wants to find out if it gets its data automagically from the game (i.e. a guild bank export that gets picked up by a Db script) or that you have to put in your stuff by hand.