Cataclysm gear...talk about item inflation

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Just saw some links to the Cataclysm gear. All I can say is, ROFL! 83 blues have more stats than heroic i277 raid content.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/...lysm-Item-List

Example:
Blightborne Warplate
Chest Plate
2756 Armor
+139 Strength
+239 Stamina
Red Socket
Blue Socket
Yellow Socket
Socket Bonus: +12 Stamina
Item Level 277
Equip: Increases defense rating by 122 (24.8 @ L80).
Equip: Increases your dodge rating by 122 (3.1% @ L80).
Equip: Improves hit rating by 69 (2.1% @ L80).

versus a Blacksmithing item:
Redsteel Breastplate
Rare
Binds when equipped
Chest Plate
3128 Armor
+268 Strength
+401 Stamina
Requires Level 83
Item Level 333
Equip: Improves haste rating by 178.
Equip: Increases your mastery rating by 178.


And level 81 blue 2H weapons at 397dps, 200ish agi/str and 350ish stam + 150ish mastery.

If I'm reading things right, entry level 78-80 greens will be roughly equivalent to i232 badge gear, minus the bonuses. 78-81 blues will be closer to i245 badge gear and non-heroic ICC25 gear. And anything after 83 has no equivalent. Be interesting to see what JC gems look like. If it's similar inflation, you might get to 84 with your ICC25 heroic loot before replacing it with Cata blues.

[Pycno]

I love this, outgearing heroic mode raiders in my green quest items I got killing 10 murlocs or picking 15 herbs from the ground

[Selz]

Not to mention the 2h polearm

http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55066/elementium-poleaxe/

[SaraiE]

This post said it all. I am not going to waste time doing heroic or try to do heroics. Just going to get my golds and lving my alts to max lvls and gather all the flowers for my future 30+ transmute alchemists.

SaraiE

[Monk3yv]

Simba is born, the cirlce of life continues!

[jimbobobb]

As far as I understood it, all old world content will have their stats adjusted. They're changing the game on a very fundamental level, and all items and content up to cataclysm will have to be adjusted to reflect that. So while it make look like your icc25 heroic items won't even get you to 85 now, once they are adjusted, they should be just fine until you replace them at 85.

[OzPhoenix]

Well, nothing too surprising there. The gear reset looks like it's more along the lines of Classic<-->BC rather than BC<--->Wrath, where lvl61 greens and quest rewards replaced Azerothian world epic drops.

For me, I'll continue farming Heroics because I enjoy gearing my Paladin team, and the Shaman team can wait until Cata to "pick up 10 herbs" for their ICC25-beating gear.

[Tonuss]

If I'm reading things right, entry level 78-80 greens will be roughly equivalent to i232 badge gear, minus the bonuses.

I saw that level 78 blue items were sporting an iLevel of 279, or just slightly above that of heroic 25-man ICC drops. It's hard to say just how close/far they really are, since the Cata items show the new way they are itemizing, and I am sure that they will re-itemize current gear when they put in patch 4.0.

Based on what Zarhym posted in the General forum, I suspect that they want to compress 10 levels worth of gear upgrades into 5 levels. And since there is also a whole new philosophy on itemization and whole new changes to many class mechanics (and the way they want PVE and PVP to work) I guess they decided to start the reset early.

It seems as if, unless you're at the very leading edge of raid content and gear, you'll be upgrading your items right from the start.

[Nejcha]

People can try to out gear us with level 83 blues. But we'll always have our achievements and titles to keep us warm while we reraid gear up.

I find it odd I hear this about wotlk too, but I used my t6/s4 when I first ran nax25/10 with out a problem, and all my first heroics.

Then again it took me less then a month for my shamans to to be in t7. Guess farming raids in BC payed off.

[Zub]

nothing new here:
- We have no clue how the current gear will adjust, so can't really compare item to item
- There is a stam/stats inflation on expansion gear.

right.
In the meantime, i'm just going to do what i find fun in-game, which isn't farming gold or badges, but simply so a few instances with my toons etc :-)