DK/Ret Cataclysm PVP Talent Discussion

[Firstcow]

I think that the extra 6% damage reduction from righteous fury is too good to pass up personally.

Righteous fury is a magic buff which is gone if it gets dispelled and in the middle of the fight there is no time to rebuff.
The 12% increased healing to FoL and holy shock is much much better to spend talens in. That means both dps increase and healing increase.
Also remember all classes become a little sturdier in cata, even cloth classes so more dps will be key.

[BrothelMeister]

http://www.wowtal.com/#k=xH5BE-TpdFMndq.9gq.deathknight for the DK is a decent compromise. Since half of the Pallies damage is Magic, Ebon Plaque increases their damage by half of the 13% buff, which is good. However, the damage from scourge strike is probably still less beneficial than the significant increase in healing from Death strike, especially since you'll likely be using your Unholy runes on Death strikes anyway.

[Multibocks]

Righteous fury is a magic buff which is gone if it gets dispelled and in the middle of the fight there is no time to rebuff.
The 12% increased healing to FoL and holy shock is much much better to spend talens in. That means both dps increase and healing increase.
Also remember all classes become a little sturdier in cata, even cloth classes so more dps will be key.

Hmm unless it changed in Cataclysm, or I'm retarded, righteous fury is not dispellable.

[Shodokan]

Righteous fury is a magic buff which is gone if it gets dispelled and in the middle of the fight there is no time to rebuff.
The 12% increased healing to FoL and holy shock is much much better to spend talens in. That means both dps increase and healing increase.
Also remember all classes become a little sturdier in cata, even cloth classes so more dps will be key.

i believe they said that RF was not going to be dispellable in cataclysm.

[Shodokan]

Well then... with the new talents and such... which tree are people thinking of going with?

I'm thinking unholy... reaping automatically + scourge strike changed to 140% weapon damage. Utility, slow, etc.

[remanz]

So hard to let go the 10% AP buff.

I am thinking just go blood for the heck of it. Tanking spec.

It looks a little OP right now as blood tank. Really gonna take a while to kill the DK. Missing a decent AOE snare, probably have to live with Heartstrike

[ghonosyph]

Im still looking to go Frost/unholy. I've always played as frost dk on my solo dk and 3 dk team, and its just the most comfortable for me. It provides a lot of utility, and lots of free interrupt, farther range on icy touch and howling blast to slow people down. Chillblanes is incredible in bgs, with howling blast glyph giving frost fever to everyone who gets hit by it means several people getting slowed down all at once to get caught up in your shit storm I do think that a Blood/frost spec might work well tho, its really hard to say till the trees get a little more refined

[Shodokan]

Blood looks like it could be hard to kill. Unholy and frost will both do tons of damage though.

[remanz]

Unholy is another option.

10% AP for 5 ppl vs single damage boost from DK. The AP buff certainly wins. But you add the spell damage buff (8% now? wtf) + AOE snare + death grip CD reduction + AMZ. It might be worth it.

Frost is no go IMO.

[Shodokan]

Unholy is another option.

10% AP for 5 ppl vs single damage boost from DK. The AP buff certainly wins. But you add the spell damage buff (8% now? wtf) + AOE snare + death grip CD reduction + AMZ. It might be worth it.

Frost is no go IMO.

5 frost strikes in a row = godlike.