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    Oh did they change it? Nonetheless I cant imagine chain heal is less mana. I find chain heal to be unreliable, so I just spam LHW which even with MS/Heal debuff seems to keep my alt up.
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    We're not focusing so much on focused healing as much as we are the passive healing, which as I can attest to us completely lacking as compared to live.

    Divine storm may not be scaling properly and with zero holy power it hits for around 380 dmg if you're lucky. Now, scale it to 3 hp and you get hits of around 1k... Which heals you for a whopping 350ish. Its almost as if it doesn't scale with our ap or spellpower conversions anymore. Also take into account that flash heal on live heals around 2to 5 k when art procs. Its a quick big heal and it procced often enough that you'd not have to worry much about it as it was a quick hit that key for random large hps, often saving a life now and then.

    All that's fine and dandy imo but word of glory, while it looks good on paper, is kinda meh in game now. When we're pvp ing we're never going to want to have to burn holy power for that heal. We basically cut our dmg in half when we do, taking pressures away for 3 to 6 seconds. Whereas before the heal just cost us a global cooldown and we kept dpsing, now we have to make a huge choice as to, do I heal or keep dpsing? That's what blizzard wanted, make a choice... I think that that removal of passivity healing for us spells doom. On live divine storm hits like a truck and thus heals like ... A wax job on the truck? Lol
    They still have more work to do on pallys and hopefully they put the spellpower conversion thing back in for us, otherwise our passive heals won't be enough I think. again, time will tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghonosyph View Post
    We're not focusing so much on focused healing as much as we are the passive healing, which as I can attest to us completely lacking as compared to live.

    Divine storm may not be scaling properly and with zero holy power it hits for around 380 dmg if you're lucky. Now, scale it to 3 hp and you get hits of around 1k... Which heals you for a whopping 350ish. Its almost as if it doesn't scale with our ap or spellpower conversions anymore. Also take into account that flash heal on live heals around 2to 5 k when art procs. Its a quick big heal and it procced often enough that you'd not have to worry much about it as it was a quick hit that key for random large hps, often saving a life now and then.

    All that's fine and dandy imo but word of glory, while it looks good on paper, is kinda meh in game now. When we're pvp ing we're never going to want to have to burn holy power for that heal. We basically cut our dmg in half when we do, taking pressures away for 3 to 6 seconds. Whereas before the heal just cost us a global cooldown and we kept dpsing, now we have to make a huge choice as to, do I heal or keep dpsing? That's what blizzard wanted, make a choice... I think that that removal of passivity healing for us spells doom. On live divine storm hits like a truck and thus heals like ... A wax job on the truck? Lol
    They still have more work to do on pallys and hopefully they put the spellpower conversion thing back in for us, otherwise our passive heals won't be enough I think. again, time will tell
    20% weapon damage seems right for that number.

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    20% weapon dmg does sound about right but there's current no scaling on the ability. Your ap doesn't affect it at all, and neither does your spell power

    This to me seems wrong.
    I did notice tho that witth the holy wrath glyph you can spam it lol, sucks up your mana awful fast but it hits harder than crusader strike lol. Divine storm, oh how I miss thee most awesomeness!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghonosyph View Post
    20% weapon dmg does sound about right but there's current no scaling on the ability. Your ap doesn't affect it at all, and neither does your spell power

    This to me seems wrong.
    I did notice tho that witth the holy wrath glyph you can spam it lol, sucks up your mana awful fast but it hits harder than crusader strike lol. Divine storm, oh how I miss thee most awesomeness!
    It being usable on everything is kinda funny, but only stuns demons. I guess it's the new "divine storm", but with like... no healing. Adds more to the rotation though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shodokan View Post
    Fear is going to not last as long in cata m8.
    dispel is for snare. Fear is not a problem other than screwing up the targetting assist.

    You only have 4 freedom. Mage novas 5. You will get one stuck. Mass dispel freedom, you can't even get out of hunter trap or rog poison. 5 of me probably can't even beat 1 good frost mage + 1 priest without dispel as today.

    I am thinking abandon 1 paladin, add 1 enhance shaman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by remanz View Post
    dispel is for snare. Fear is not a problem other than screwing up the targetting assist.

    You only have 4 freedom. Mage novas 5. You will get one stuck. Mass dispel freedom, you can't even get out of hunter trap or rog poison. 5 of me probably can't even beat 1 good frost mage + 1 priest without dispel as today.

    I am thinking abandon 1 paladin, add 1 enhance shaman.

    Mages just got so much more powerful. That cone of cold change is amazing- screw frostbite. They have so many ways to control mass groups of melee, even more so now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shodokan View Post
    Fear is going to not last as long in cata m8.
    Do we have any more information on this?
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    i've been looking and looking but i just cant find the official info that i found before i'll keep trying! i promise!!!!

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    the problem is "changes to fear" is far too common of a search item when referring to Cataclysm :P
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