Thinking of switching to ISBoxer

[blast3r]

One question up front. There are two categories here in this forum. One ISBoxer and the other Innerspace. These are the same, right?

I just watched the video on Lax's site and it showed it was incredibly easy to setup. I did try an eval a while back before the wizard was introduced and just couldn't get it setup. The way it is now looks like it would be very easy to drop new toons into a team and pretty much be ready to go into a dungeon. This correct? I find it hard to drop in toons with my current setup.

Since WoW destroyed clickrandom I went to the 'click' method on some of my toons. How easy is this to do with ISBoxer? And I am currently using macaroon for my action bars. Any issues using that? I like the larger macros it gives.

[Monk3yv]

I was wondering the same thing, blast3r.

The videos go a bit faster than I would like sometimes and I am left wondering, "Alright what's going on here?" Damn language barrier! (google translate is my friend)

[Mercurio]

Blastr,

As I understand it, Innerspace is the core software. ISBoxer is like an application that utilizes Innerspace functionality to do what it does.

Going to Innerspace/ISBoxer is definitely worth it, but I wouldn't do so thinking it will be an easy transition. If you aren't planning on spending at least four hours getting it set up correctly and tweaking things to get the right feel for you, I wouldn't start the transition.

If you are planning to switch toons in and out of teams (as I do frequently), I would suggest not telling the wizard to set up Jamba for you. I let it set up Jamba for my first set of ten toons and any others I load in are rather wonky (I still need to fix this).

I killed the FTL keymap right away when I installed it and created another keymap that simply passes all keys 1-0 (and - and +). After doing that I was able to use all my old macros just as they were (including crazy-long macros using SuperDuperMacro).

It won't be easy or fun to get it all set up, but it is soooo worth it.

[Gorthu]

Just don't switch over today. There was an update yesterday to IS and some of us are having issues with it working. If you have trouble with it, you won't know if it's the bug, or if you are just doing something wrong. But it is definitely a nice program. ISBoxer is the tool you use to set up the "script" to run your games. After you export your setup into IS, you can close the ISBoxer.

[Lax]

The update yesterday was reverted, anyone having trouble can just restart their IS and any new problems are gone. I'm correcting those issues before the patch goes live again. The state of IS at the moment is the same as it has been since last August.

As far as the amount of time it takes you to switch, it really depends on how complex your setup currently is, and how closely you want to mirror it. A lot of people are done within a few minutes, between the Quick Setup Wizard and the "Many new Mapped Keys" generator.

As far as switching toons in and out of teams, I do this too. It's perfectly fine to do this, ISBoxer will sync your Jamba team to whatever set of toons you configure. I'm not sure what trouble Mercurio was having, but if you're switching toons on the fly you're going to want to switch it in the Character Set, Export, and either log out to character selection or do a /reloadui. If you don't, then the ISBoxer Addon is still going to have macros active that specify the previous character, and it's still going to insist on putting the previous character in your Jamba team.

Then if you've got a bunch of macros configured in-game specifically for multiboxing, that may or may not get in the way. If you're currently using a focus-based setup, you'll either want to drop that or the FTL. Mercurio for example says he kept his original setup, which since he removed the FTL probably has auto-assist built into the in-game macros (or he'd have to manually assist with an assist key). With ISBoxer, the idea is that you should never have to make macros in-game specifically for multiboxing -- it should be no different in-game than playing solo, except you have several characters. It's much quicker to switch to ISBoxer if you don't have tons of in-game macros specifically for multiboxing.

Anyhow, here's the two guides that you might want for your initial setup (then Ualaa's guide after that when you want more complicated stuff later)
Guide for switching from Keyclone to ISBoxer: http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=30460
ISBoxer's WoW Quick Start Guide: http://isboxer.com/index.php/guides/...de-quick-start

[Dooz]

hey blast welcome back !!!

I switched from Keyclone to ISboxer and haven't looked back. I suggest setting your keybinds back to default and letting ISB do the work. I had a little trouble a first too. If you have more than one toon on each account, and if you haven't merged your accounts, rembering which toon is on what account could be a little taxing. That's not the software's fault though. BTW, if you plan to use one authenticator across multiple accounts, I found it easier to keep your accounts seperate and not merge them all. I can use one / the same authenticator number accross all my accounts. It seems as if you are unable to do that if you have your accounts merged

While I can certainly get rolling in under 40 seconds now... that wasn't the case the first time I used ISB. Don't confuse getting started with understanding how ISB does things. I found myself wondering a lot. What helped me the most was Ualaa's guide and having ISB open when reading it. I also set up some new toons and rolled with them for a bit while using Ualaa's guide. Starting with fresh toons to learn ISB helped a lot. However, I'm sure there are some people out there that "get it" right away. I'm just not one of those people. I'm an old dog, and these are new tricks

Setting up your displays can be a bother at first because the wizard is limited in its options. I have multiple monitors, and I find it easier to say no thanks to that part of the wizard. I just apply one of the window layouts I've already created. You wont have that at first, but manually setting up layouts isn't that difficult. As a matter of fact, once you give this software some time, pretty much anything you need to do is fairly simple.

As for macros, you might want to consider JAMBA. You can use whatever action bar program you like and write your macros in Jamba.

Anyway, this is great software. Have fun!

[blast3r]

Thanks everyone! I got my eval today so going to start setting it up this weekend (or sooner). I will check out Ualaa's writeup.

And Merc, hopefully I will be able to have a more diverse team for raids if you want. Even though all pallies worked on the couple I went with you on.

Now what I need to do is actually try and put together a real team instead of using the same classes. I have 35 to choose from!

[jinkobi]

ISBoxer rules... You will find that you can't live without it eventually.

Not to mention you have the software's author posting directly to us all the time. The actual person who create/codes ISboxer right here all the time making sure our software is running well. That really is unheard of service. Lax is like Thomas Edison sleeps 30 minutes a day

Seriously though it's the best thing you'll ever do for yourself in your multiboxing career. After the evaluation i'm convinced you'll be sold like I was.

[blast3r]

ISBoxer rules... You will find that you can't live without it eventually.

Not to mention you have the software's author posting directly to us all the time. The actual person who create/codes ISboxer right here all the time making sure our software is running well. That really is unheard of service. Lax is like Thomas Edison sleeps 30 minutes a day

Seriously though it's the best thing you'll ever do for yourself in your multiboxing career. After the evaluation i'm convinced you'll be sold like I was.

I can't wait to try it. But also to be fair, Mr Keyclone probably has a million hours of time in this forum. Top notch support there as well!

[blast3r]

I installed ISBoxer this morning but haven't set anything up yet. Weird thing happened after installing,. I have two wow folders and the main wow install had to repatch itself. Several of them. Not sure why that happened but repatched and ready to go...as soon as I stop procrastinating.