Instance troubles

[perin413]

Ok so I am trying to do instances. I have a 5 box team and trying to do instances and heroics. I can work through several instances but get destroyed in heriocs

My team is
Warrior GS 4900 Talent is prot
Shaman GS 4900 Talent is resto
Warlock GS 5000+ Talent is demon
Warlock GS 5000+ Talent is afflict
Mage GS 5000+ Talent is frost

I am using the glyphs as recommended by wowpopular.com

here is my problem. I used recount and my DPS was like 800 - 900 for the 3 DPS

here is my rotations ::

Warlock (afflict)
Seed of Corruption, Curse of Doom, Haunt, corruption, Immolate, Shadow Bolt, Unstable Affliction, Shadow Bolt, drain life, , Unstable Affliction, Shadow Bolt, Unstable Affliction, Shadow Bolt, drain life, , Unstable Affliction, Shadow Bolt, Haunt, corruption, curse of agony, Immolate, drain life, Incinerate, Shadow Bolt, Life Tap, Shadow Bolt, Corruption, incinerate, shadow bolt, Haunt, shadow bolt, shadow bolt,

Warlock (demon)
Seed of Corruption, curse of agony, Immolate, drain life, , Incinerate, Shadow Bolt, Life Tap, , curse of agony, Immolate, Shadow Bolt, Seed of Corruption, curse of agony, Immolate, shadow bolt, Immolate, Seed of Corruption, Curse of Doom, Demonic Empowerment, Fel Domination, Metamorphosis, Incinerate, Immolate, shadow bolt, Immolate, drain life, , ,

Mage
Ice Lance, Frostbolt, Ice Lance, Frostfire Bolt, Ice Lance,Frostfire Bolt, Ice Lance, Icy Veins, Frost Nova,, Cone of Cold ,Ice Lance, Frostfire Bolt, Frostbolt, Ice Lance,Deep Freeze, Cold Snap

fireball, icy veins, Frostbolt, ice lance, Frostfire Bolt, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Firebal, Ice Lance, Deep Freeze, Frostbolt, Ice Lance, Ice Lance, Ice Lance, Ice Lance, Ice Lance,

Shaman
Totems Grounding, Mana spring, Searing, Stoneskin
I spam healing wave on the tank.

Anyone see any problem or how i can increase my dps so that i can work my way forward ??

[Zub]

Mage: not sure about it, but isnt Ice Lance a very low dmg spell unless it hits a frozen target?
Bosses don't get frozen so Ice lance will never be triple and will only cause very small dmg.
You're basically losing a few global cooldowns in your macro. i would fill the blanks will frostbolt instead of ice lance.
(then again, i haven't played a mage in 2 years, and only up to 70 :-)

do you have [nochanneling] in your macros? if not you might clip your drain spells on the locks.

Everyone would benefit from the flametounge totem more than the searing. More spell power to all.
Also, wrath of Air might be better too,depending on the fight dmd

hope this helps.
-Zub

[perin413]

true I think arcane may be better for DPS. gonna dual spec on arcane

[Zub]

true I think arcane may be better for DPS. gonna dual spec on arcane

Any frost mage with a 5k GS will dish out more than 800dps, even just spamming frostbolts.
Your problem is not the spec (frost vs arcane) but rather what you cast.

You might want to link your armory toons, for more info on spec/gear etc.

[Seldum]

If I where you I would drag my team to some test dummies and go trough each of your toons rotations.

For my own druids I did one run where I managed everything manually as if I where a solo player, and then compared that to my castsequence.

You gearscore is WAY better than my teams and I can do some instances like UK without breaking a sweat.

And like stated above, you should have the [nochanneling] in all your cast sequences.

[Malgor]

Here is my arcane spec if you want help. My mage has about 5100GS and does about 2900 DPS in instances while 5 boxing.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...Malygos&cn=Tou


Here is my arcane cast sequence:
/stopmacro [channeling]
/castsequence reset=5 Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Missiles

I'm doing that from memory since the servers are down for 24 hours, so I hope that's right.

[crowdx]

So looking at this setup, you should be facerolling Heroics BUT I am wondering about the tank? Is he holding aggro? How are you getting killed in heroics? Warrior is a little more work than a pally or druid so I am wondering about what the overall issue is.
Can you elaborate?

[perin413]

I am using a warrior as tank. my problem does not seem holding the aggro. I think it is not getting a high enough DPS. I think knocking them down quicker is the solution .

Seldum can u show me a nochannel macro ..

thanks for all the help

[crowdx]

So how does your team wipe? What dungeons? People have cleared heroics in blues and greens and so I really feel it is very unlikely that dps is the issue unless you run out of mana from taking so long to down the boss?

[perin413]

Usually the tank can hold the aggr. the healer runs outa mana and then the tank dies ... then wipe