Premades group for Rated Battlegrounds

[Nsaeyn]

Cataclysm
Premades group for Rated Battlegrounds
We feel like 5-player dungeons are the kind of thing we can more-or-less randomly assemble and give you a reasonable chance of success. Even in that case, however, we make sure you have a tank and healer and look at gear and experience and that sort of thing.

Putting together groups for BGs is much taller proposition, especially when rating and epic gear are potentially involved. We want players to individually decide what kinds of classes and mechanics they need to be successful. We want players to decide what gear or experience requirements they are looking for. Most importantly, we want players to organize themselves -- we want you to decide who is the leader and / or what your strategy is, and we want you to have a mechanism for handling players who refuse to follow those goals, just want to argue, or are refusing to be team players. Randomly assembling groups would require many additional features, tools and rules that are very tricky to design in order to enforce these things. When someone else does the inviting, they can set the ground rules, and you can choose to live with them, challenge them or look for another group. It does require a little more work on your part up-front, but you'll have a much better experience in the long run. (Source)

[...] To be clear, you can still solo queue for normal (i.e. non-rated) Battlegrounds and still earn honor points to purchase gear. If you want conquest points (which we call Arena points today), you will need to enter rated BGs and you will need to form a group to do so. This is the same requirement we make for raiding, which provides similar rewards. (Source)

Could be interesting and a much needed nicer experience for BG's.

[Cheesepile]

I'm curious if we just need a 5-man group to join, or if you need a full premade ie 10 for wsg, 15 for ab etc

[BrothelMeister]

I was under the impression before that they were going to limit max group size for queueing to 5, but if they up that number, I might have to look at picking a different server to play with some more boxers.

[drevil]

i really don't like the way this all is going to...

raid coercive + new bg layouts with more pillars + set bg for rated

[Mokoi]

I'm curious if we just need a 5-man group to join, or if you need a full premade ie 10 for wsg, 15 for ab etc

You need to queue with the number of people required for the BG. so a raid of 15 for AB / EotS etc etc..

[Littleburst]

Could be fun, allthough getting facestomped by a raid filled with 2,2k rated people can really take the fun out.

The advantage of boxing is that you're somewhat organised in a BG, where none else really is. Premades take out this advantage. But it's also a hopefully fun challenge. I'm curious and we'll see.

[Firstcow]

I"m not concerned. If all else fails, I will start raiding and convert PVE points to PVP points and get the best gear.

[Shabu42]

You can do that? Like is it how frost buys 251 or can you convert to stuff you can buy 270 gear with (cata level equivalents)

[Firstcow]

You can do that? Like is it how frost buys 251 or can you convert to stuff you can buy 270 gear with (cata level equivalents)

Actually I think I'm wrong. Only the lower tier can do that, convert pvp->pve and pve->pvp

[Kalros]

You need to queue with the number of people required for the BG. so a raid of 15 for AB / EotS etc etc..

Are you sure about that? If thats the case, then there would never be any rated BGs for AV or Isle of Conquest, as you would have to have 40 dedicated people to do it. And that would mean that you could pick whichever Battleground you wanted as your "Rated" BG.

I was looking for some sort of blue post that elaborated on this, and I have yet to find one.

If this indeed IS true, that would be kind of f-ed up, and my excitement about rated BGs just went from 100 to 0.