5 Shamans - Bad Idea?

[Owltoid]

There are guys clearing WotLK heroics using 5 shamans. Search YouTube or this site for videos

[Feehza]

I'm thinking here you meant to say "You can't clear a lot of heroics." Right?

No,i meant "you can clear". But on the other side "you cant clear" is correct too
Gun'drack, Drak'tharon, Occulos, Violett Hold are very doable. When i do farm emblem of triumph i go heroic gun'drack and Pit of Saron normal (normal ICC dungeons drops emblems too).
In every Boss-Fight i use all Earth-Elemental.
One of the problems is not to get aggro. All shaman are 55/16/0 specced.

[OzPhoenix]

No,i meant "you can clear". But on the other side "you cant clear" is correct too
Gun'drack, Drak'tharon, Occulos, Violett Hold are very doable. When i do farm emblem of triumph i go heroic gun'drack and Pit of Saron normal (normal ICC dungeons drops emblems too).
In every Boss-Fight i use all Earth-Elemental.
One of the problems is not to get aggro. All shaman are 55/16/0 specced.

Very surprised to hear this - I might yet bring my old 5xShaman team out of retirement and try this. Back when Wrath first came out, Heroics were totally beyond them (as were BC heroics pre-Wrath) for lack of a tank. Well, they were for my shamans anyway... lol.

[Littleburst]

I got 4 shaman, quite well geared though

28k hp, 3k SP unbuffed. 173 hit, 0 haste.

And i can pretty much 4 man all oldschool HC's.
Can't do ICC ones, occulus and toc.

Problem is, that i can gear up and then solo HC's. Which isn't quite usefull.

I would never go 5 shaman. Or go 4 shaman + tank or druid
or just stick to 4 shaman and let someone else tank = ezmode

Ps: no, i haven't in fact cleared all those instances with just me x 4, but i did do some with a fury warrior or a doomkin as fifth just for the daily. And i just had the shaman tank most stuff. Bosses die in 15-20 seconds of combat though.

[Owltoid]

Peeps are seriously outgearing the instance so it shouldn't be too surprising.

[OzPhoenix]

Peeps are seriously outgearing the instance so it shouldn't be too surprising.

Well, I'm assuming of course that the 5xShaman group running a Heroic actually had a reason to, short of 2xFrost emblems.

To me, 5xShaman for PvE would only be worth it if they could run a Heroic without massively over-gearing it.

So have some reasonably-geared all-Shaman teams knocked over Heroics sans tank?

[Owltoid]

I think I first heard of shaman's clearing heroics post-ToC, pre-ICC. Not sure if that gives you an idea of the level of outgearing needed for going w/o a tank.

And I think they're doing it for the challenge and frost emblems - not for the gear in the instance.

[OzPhoenix]

I think I first heard of shaman's clearing heroics post-ToC, pre-ICC. Not sure if that gives you an idea of the level of outgearing needed for going w/o a tank.

And I think they're doing it for the challenge and frost emblems - not for the gear in the instance.

Yeah, see that'd sound more in line with what I found with my all-Shaman team back in BC days. Heroics only become even marginally reasonable when I'd substantially outgeared them, greatly mitigating the point of doing the Heroic in the first place.

I'll be interested to hear from some of these all-Shammy runners to clarify this point, Heroics over-geared or Heroics at normal-gearing.