Keyclone. 5 chars at same time. 1 pc. Lag when in crowded places :/ *Need tips* (solved, tyvm).

[MiRai]

But I am still using Windows Vista 32 bit w/6g of RAM and am able to multibox just fine.

And how exactly are you doing that? The limitation of 32 bit operating systems is indeed 4GB. Then the system or the hardware keep a little for themselves leaving you with less than 4GB total.

[jinkobi]

Well I'm not utilizing it all of course... It's installed 3X2gig memory sticks and says it's installed and that I have 6 gigs of memory accessable- I know it isn't physically possible to utilize it though.

But I'm not saying go get more memory - if I implied that I am sorry. My main point was to check out your cache settings and I am able to run 5 instances of WOW without the major lag you're describing. It's a free option and if it doesn't work out for you then the only choice is 64 bit.

[MiRai]

Well I'm not utilizing it all of course... It's installed 3X2gig memory sticks and says it's installed and that I have 6 gigs of memory accessable- I know it isn't physically possible to utilize it though.

But I'm not saying go get more memory - if I implied that I am sorry. My main point was to check out your cache settings and I am able to run 5 instances of WOW without the major lag you're describing. It's a free option and if it doesn't work out for you then the only choice is 64 bit.

Cool man, maybe I read into it too much but I just wanted to make sure the OP [or any future forum goers that use the lolwut search command] clearly understood.

[jinkobi]

Hey Fen here's something I found- another tweak if you will.



Windows Vista is the first Microsoft operating system which needs a specific tailored computer to work. As a matter of fact it is so memory hungry that it requires a powerful computer to run. This thing didn’t happen with XP which was as fast as a rocket even with as low as 512 MB of RAM and a low performing hardware. When Vista was released, Microsoft itself was very aware of its RAM-needs and in fact advised “at least” 1GB of RAM to run the O.S. on a computer. In the meanwhile a lot of people started buying 3,4,5 GB of RAM but what they didn’t know was that their 32 bit Windows Vista could only handle 3 GB at most! Luckily for those guys there is a little trick which enables their Vista “to overcome” that limit. Here is the trick:

1. Click Start.
2. Type CMD in the Search Bar.
3. PressCtrl + Shift + Enter to run cmd in administrative mode.
4. Type BCDEdit /set PAE forceenable
5. If this does not work try other 2 times at least. As a matter of fact Vista does not take this command right away in some cases. Make also sure to type the command in the same way it is written on point 4.
6. If Vista got this command successfully you should see the following message: the operation completed successfully.
7. To undo it, type: BCDEdit /deletevalue PAE

Source:
http://www.webtlk.com/2008/06/04/ena...windows-vista/

It's still physically impossible I believe.

[balderrdash]

Could you really just run WoW off the SSD or do you need to install Windows on there as well to get the benefit? If you need Windows, what would be the minimum size, assuming you were running all the WoW's off one install? I've got a decent terrabyte drive for all my other date, but it'd be nice to remove the biggest bottleneck in my boxing for a hundred bucks or so if that's possible. If you get it, you'd have to reinstall Windows to the drive right? It's not the sort of thing you can just copy over and tell the bios to boot off the other drive I imagine.

[Owltoid]

The only thing on my SSD is WoW. I use a basic 7200 RPM drive for my operating system and porn.

[kate]

I had similar issues when I entered dalaran. In my case , I have win7, core i7 920, 6 gb ram, and a nvivida gtx 260.

I had more than enough power to do dalaran, but it just wouldn't load and all toons got disconnected.

So I bought a solid state disk and all my loading issues when away. My theory is that in dalarn, it was taking so long toload everything from the slow ass hard drive, the client timed out.

I don't have an SSD in, but I am capable of running all 5 instances in Dalaran at moderate settings and it's really smooth, and other than 2gb more ram and a 5850, my system is similar to yours.

What settings are you loading all 5 into Dalaran with?

[daanji]

Jebus, you do not need a $400 SSD for WoW. I use my 32GB RiData SSD that costs less than $100 and everything is smooth. Just put WoW on the SSD (what else do you need it for, really?) and you're good to go.

I never said you need a $400 drive. Any SSD that supports TRIM will do.

If you want a cheap fast drive, a smaller capacity drive will do fine. Its common sense.

I assume that most multi boxers have disposable income and as such getting an SSD isn't much of an issue.

[newbox]

Ok its time for a update and im very happy

I just installed win 7 ultimate 64 bit (the manual was very..bad.. i discovered i had to cancel the startup/boot (pressing "del" on my pc) and set the dvd drive to boot first (altered setting in the bios). This way i could run the 64bit cd that came along the win7 package.

Anyway i just walked and rode around sw, if and dala = no lag and zero stutter. Amazing...!


I got the 4 toons on the minimum settings possible (ingame), 15 fps max, 10 fps backgrd (on keyclone).
My main toon has a pretty decent resolution and 60 fps (30 background).
I use the first 2 cores on my main and the 4 others use the two other core (affinitysettings in keyclone).

Seems really imba so far. Wonder how this will be when i get the 128 gb ssd i ordered (didnt come in the mail today sadly).


Anyway, ty veeeery much for the tip that i needed to get 64bit! That did the trick for sure.

All seems ok now so gonna try bg's very soon.

Back with a update when i get the ssd drive. Plan to 10box eventually (got another pc in the works)

5 x lava burst so far = pro

[newbox]

Its time for a update, a happy one.

Today i managed to copy win 7 and wow + my essensial programs over to my new kinston vseries 128 gb desktop bundle SSD drive (got around 55 gigs to spare, this is my new /c drive). Im using the old harddrive as a extra harddrive i can store stuff on (/shows as /e drive).

What a difference.. Ive boosted up the grafixsettings on all toons and increased the fps somewhat too in keyclone so now they all move fluidly.

Not to mention the increased overall performance of the pc as a whole. Its a lot faster.

Wish i did this earlier.

Highly recommended


Ty again for all your insight and support.