Hacked then Banned

[Vecter]

That's a terrible comparison. If I could fill out a 30 second text explanation to the cops that some thieves stole my classic car drove it til it broke, stripped it, lit it on fire and rolled it off a cliff and a week later it was sitting back in my driveway in mint condition, not a replica of it, not a similar car or copy, but the exact same.... Then maybe I would consider that a fair comparison.

Thats what happens when your account gets hacked. You fill out a text box, press submit, and wait in line for a restore. The only thing an authenticator gives you is a warm fuzzy. Several authenticator equipped accounts have been comprimised already, it's by no means even implied to be unbeatable security.

Those without authenticators are sayin something like, "not worth the hassle" or "Idiots, stop d/ling pr0n and getting keyloggers"

Those with authenticators are saying something like "I like me a security blanket" or " OMG if you don't have an authenticator your gear score goes to 0 and you get -50 DKP from missing 2 raids"

Both sides are filled with a share of asses that like to argue blind technicalities and symantics, or total morons (myself included in that description somewhere).

Edit: I forgot to include the people that are in this in this thread, posting all over our faces with 1337 flame skills for lawlz

Keep in mind getting your account hacked also can affect others. Our guild bank was stripped and we are now down 1 raid member for this week and until they get their account back. Sure some blame can be placed on the guild officers for allowing this but this is the perfect example of a trusted person who has not had any issues getting hacked. It can happen to anyone. For me I use an authenticator so I DON'T have to continuously watch where I go, what I do. I know enough to stay away from most places but I know I can hit one on accident.

[Fursphere]

That's a terrible comparison. If I could fill out a 30 second text explanation to the cops that some thieves stole my classic car drove it til it broke, stripped it, lit it on fire and rolled it off a cliff and a week later it was sitting back in my driveway in mint condition, not a replica of it, not a similar car or copy, but the exact same.... Then maybe I would consider that a fair comparison.

Thats what happens when your account gets hacked. You fill out a text box, press submit, and wait in line for a restore. The only thing an authenticator gives you is a warm fuzzy. Several authenticator equipped accounts have been comprimised already, it's by no means even implied to be unbeatable security.

Those without authenticators are sayin something like, "not worth the hassle" or "Idiots, stop d/ling pr0n and getting keyloggers"

Those with authenticators are saying something like "I like me a security blanket" or " OMG if you don't have an authenticator your gear score goes to 0 and you get -50 DKP from missing 2 raids"

Both sides are filled with a share of asses that like to argue blind technicalities and symantics, or total morons (myself included in that description somewhere).

Edit: I forgot to include the people that are in this in this thread, posting all over our faces with 1337 flame skills for lawlz

Guess your memory is a bit fuzzy.

For many years Blizzard did nothing for hacked accounts. They simple said "there is nothing we can do" - only recently they've done complete restores, and have the "care package" option to speed things up.

When it becomes too cost intensive for them to handle all the restores, they'll pull the plug on that division.

They give out authenticators at events. They give you an in game pet for getting one. They include them in special editions of they're software. Take a hint: they want you to use the service (and its free if you have a supported smart phone).

Damn kids these days have it easy.

[genocyde]

Ya, trust me I understand that side of things. 2 of my 5 guild members were hacked in the last 2 months.

All 5 of us are real life friends. However the only thing that came out of it was that that hacked individual bought the first round or got razzed a little for being an idiot and getting hacked. (one for sure was an idiot and got himself hacked the other just caught some flack until he bought us all a beer)

I guess we are just of the non-serious mindset about the minor inconvenience of not getting to play a game for a few days. Allthough one of the hacked guild members managed to farm back the majority of a ilvl 232 gearset before blizzard could restore it. Which he then lost in the restore, and still I don't think I heard a gripe out of him.

Just playin a game after all. Thats the part I don't understand, why people act like a week of downtime is like having a limb removed. So far the only valid response is the inconvenience to your friends / guild who depend on you or enjoy your company. For me, we have the real life option, that doesn't exist for everyone due to long distances or creepy internet guy phobias. Thats fine, it's their life thier way.

It's comments like losing my online datas being equivalent to losing a rebuilt classic car (sorry to bomb on your terrible example again but I just can't stop) that just keep dragging me back to this thread for smiles.

[Fursphere]

It's comments like losing my online datas being equivalent to losing a rebuilt classic car (sorry to bomb on your terrible example again but I just can't stop) that just keep dragging me back to this thread for smiles.

Its called a labor of love.

The example is perfect becuase its something you put hundreds of hours into because you enjoy it. Restoring a classic car doesn't cost tens of thousand of dollars if you take your time and do the work yourself. It starts costing big bucks when people pay others to do the work for them.

[genocyde]

Guess your memory is a bit fuzzy.

For many years Blizzard did nothing for hacked accounts. They simple said "there is nothing we can do" - only recently they've done complete restores, and have the "care package" option to speed things up.

When it becomes too cost intensive for them to handle all the restores, they'll pull the plug on that division.

They give out authenticators at events. They give you an in game pet for getting one. They include them in special editions of they're software. Take a hint: they want you to use the service (and its free if you have a supported smart phone).

Damn kids these days have it easy.

My memory isn't fuzzy, I've playes since vanilla, I've just never been hacked so I don't really know the history of it. Simple risk management tells me they will never pull the plug on restoring lost accounts. Worst case scenario you'll see payed character rollbacks. It's their cheap solution to building an actual security system. Those keyfobs are a godsend for cheap security. But until they require it, it is a pain in my ass none the less.

I like the kids these days comment though. It reminds me of how inefficient old people are walking up hill both ways all the time.

[genocyde]

Its called a labor of love.

The example is perfect becuase its something you put hundreds of hours into because you enjoy it. Restoring a classic car doesn't cost tens of thousand of dollars if you take your time and do the work yourself. It starts costing big bucks when people pay others to do the work for them.

You fail to see the whole I smash your car and you can't press reset side of your own example. It's still terrible.

[Fursphere]

You fail to see the whole I smash your car and you can't press reset side of your own example. It's still terrible.

Car insurance = Press Reset and start over. (yes, I did mention INSURING the car)

A good insurance company takes the rig to a body shop / mechanic and starts fixing it. Thats the same as a blizzard tech restoring your lost items.

Is this really that hard for you? Ever heard of LoJack?

EDIT: Yes, a digtal restore is easier than a physical restore, but my whole god damn fucking point is you CAN take steps to reduce the risk and protect your (TIME) investment.

$6 for a authenticator is NOTHING. You wipe your ass with more than $6 worth of toilet paper. I made more than $6 with the time spent trying to explain this too you.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I'v been running for years without norton or anything.


1) Never open email attachments

2) If you go to a web site you dont know about and it says "Do you trust soandso" answer no. ALWAYS look at the address bar and make sure you are where you should be. Stuff like www.samdeathwalker.auxdfw.com is a no no the thing right before .com has to be the name of the site you want. Also deep sub folders with random numbers like www.samdeathwalker.com/abfeds are to be avoided.

3) SHUT OFF ALL REMOTE services, this AUTOMATICALLY stops most anyone from remotly doing anything to your PC. Yes complex root kits and what not can override this but this will protect you from 99 percent of attacks, and anyone who can overcome it will not be interested in yur lousy $100 wow characters, they be hacking for real big times moneys


Turn this OFF:

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...windows-vista/

http://www.sevenforums.com/system-se...-services.html


This is what you need to look at and figure out which to turn off:

http://www.askvg.com/windows-7-servi...set-to-manual/

not set to manual but set to disable.

Always set the service to MANUAL, never disable it, so that whenever Windows needs to start a service it can easily start and use it. If you set any service to DISABLED, Windows will not be able to start it and will give some error messages

Ya you set to disable so you instantly know if some program is trying to change your registry to allow remote access lol ....





Just google each one that has "remote" in it and see what safe to shut off or not.


To overcome all that the hacker would have to be very very good. The kiddie script the op downloaded would have no way to run in admin mode to turn these on without all kinds of warnings coming up, if it even could.

In fact I bet if the OP checked his computer he has all the remote stuff on.

[genocyde]

Fur I'm not going to debate with you if your going to contradict your own arguments and apparently not read or comprehend mine.

[emps]

Several authenticator equipped accounts have been comprimised already, it's by no means even implied to be unbeatable security.

Again users' fault. It's another one of those warez that you downloaded together with w/e it is that you're dl'ing while playing wow. Pretty much like SSL; Yes the traffic is encrypted from the client to the server but what about internal (user to computer). For those who don't know here's a link for it: http://www.wow.com/2010/02/28/man-in...uthenticators/.

Just wanting to add more information to the vulnerability so everybody is fully aware and not just swayed blindly by certain statements.