Hacked then Banned

[Redbeard]

This post is freaking ridiculous.

Blizzard will help you restore your stuff as part of their baseline service. You dont have to pay extra for it.

People who want extra protection against possible mistakes that THEY MAKE (not blizzard) can purchase it cheaply.

You sacrifice a bit of time for improved safety. You gain some peace of mind (which is unquantifiably valuable, on a person by person basis).

What the fuck are we arguing here?

[Svpernova09]

I understand people that don't want to get an authenticator, however jaded I think your reasons are. But if you choose not to get an authenticator, for fucks sake, make sure you're not in a position to have the loss of YOUR account affect OTHERS

[Tonuss]

While this comment has validity. I have been playing MMOS for many many years(starting with Beta for Everquest) and have never had to have an authenticator before. I am the only person who uses this computer. I only use it for WOW( I use my work computer for email, facebook etc), and I run a virus scan every other day.

I am the same way-- very cautious, very computer savvy, and I've been able to avoid any issues with malware at home for ~20 years or so.

...and I have had an authenticator for a year or so already.

I was worried that I'd become "that guy." The computer-savvy person who winds up getting his WOW accounts hacked and wonders how the heck it happened. Maybe because I'm in IT and I have to deal with malware infestations all the time, including on computers whose users are pretty savvy themselves. I did not want to take a chance with my WOW accounts. The authenticator is a must-have for a multiboxer, IMO.

[Myc]

As far as I can tell, Yes, You are doing it right.

but but but...
Failing: he's not doing it right >.<

[Tonuss]

Ain't that part of the service & support any decent company should offer to it's clients? To your analogy, if you enter your bankcard into a 'compromised' ATM or when fraude happens with your creditcard, the bank shouldn't do anything. "You entered your card into the atm, so it's your responsibility". Don't think so. You will expect your bank to refund you and undo any damage done. Moreover it's in the law in several countries.

I think that in this example, the bank has much more to lose than Blizzard does, if it turns out that their security is so poor that theft is rampant. That's why so many banks and credit card issuers spend so much time and money on systems and services that provide assistance in the event of card/account/ID theft. My banks will call me if they see activity that they deem suspicious, instead of waiting for me to report a problem.

I think it's really about cost benefit. If the cost of dealing with account theft at the GM/CM level became bad enough, Blizzard would probably require authenticators and provide them free with new battle.net accounts. I'm sure it costs my bank less to have a pre-emptive system in place (track activity and have a real person call me when they think there's a problem) than it would be to deal with the losses from ignoring the few times when unusual activity was due to theft. Then again, once one company offers a service like that, the others may be forced to do so in order to keep up appearances. Blizzard's account security will never be as tight as that of a bank*, because it doesn't have to be.



* Or at least, I hope that there are no banks with security on the level of battle.net logins...

[thefunk]

People spend an extraordinary amount of time complaining about blizzard wasting time / money / whatever on a website when they could have logged into WoW with authenticators for half that time. I personally don't believe in blame culture especially on reasons where the company has released a fix, which wasn't intended specifically for multiboxers but for solo players. As Redbeard said, what's the problem?

[genocyde]

It's become obvious that this thread is meant for the discussion of arena strats. I finally realize why I haven't broke 1800 yet.

[Fursphere]

The sense of entitlement in this thread is disgusting.

BLIZZARD OWES ME AN AUTHENTICATOR ON PRINCPLE ALONE!

No you idiots, they don't. If you don't understand this, you deserve to get your accounts hacked. If you're going to put hundreds of hours into something, (hard to argue you're not going to when your willing to spend the cash to multibox), yet not protect it? Uh.. ya.

Its like restoring a classic car then leaving it unlocked on the street, uninsured. Why go through the effort?

[lacitpo]

-------------------------^^^Account w/out Authenticator^^^--------------------------------------^^^What happens^^^^^^^^^^^

[genocyde]

The sense of entitlement in this thread is disgusting.

BLIZZARD OWES ME AN AUTHENTICATOR ON PRINCPLE ALONE!

No you idiots, they don't. If you don't understand this, you deserve to get your accounts hacked. If you're going to put hundreds of hours into something, (hard to argue you're not going to when your willing to spend the cash to multibox), yet not protect it? Uh.. ya.

Its like restoring a classic car then leaving it unlocked on the street, uninsured. Why go through the effort?

That's a terrible comparison. If I could fill out a 30 second text explanation to the cops that some thieves stole my classic car drove it til it broke, stripped it, lit it on fire and rolled it off a cliff and a week later it was sitting back in my driveway in mint condition, not a replica of it, not a similar car or copy, but the exact same.... Then maybe I would consider that a fair comparison.

Thats what happens when your account gets hacked. You fill out a text box, press submit, and wait in line for a restore. The only thing an authenticator gives you is a warm fuzzy. Several authenticator equipped accounts have been comprimised already, it's by no means even implied to be unbeatable security.

Those without authenticators are sayin something like, "not worth the hassle" or "Idiots, stop d/ling pr0n and getting keyloggers"

Those with authenticators are saying something like "I like me a security blanket" or " OMG if you don't have an authenticator your gear score goes to 0 and you get -50 DKP from missing 2 raids"

Both sides are filled with a share of asses that like to argue blind technicalities and symantics, or total morons (myself included in that description somewhere).

Edit: I forgot to include the people that are in this in this thread, posting all over our faces with 1337 flame skills for lawlz