Thunderfall Totem Vs Wrathful Totem

[Maleick]

Does the 215 base to lava apply to talents and such? Ive search alot and haven't found a clear answer why 119 to all spells isn't better?

[BrothelMeister]

Last I checked my math, the Thunder fall totem, with the usual set of talents, and assuming that you crit, comes to about 500+ damage (without the clearcasting +10%) to your largest nuke. The 119 sp to everything would only add abut 200-250 damage to your largest nuke.

Overall damage pouring, yes, the wrathful/relentless totems are decent, but the thunderfall totem makes our most important killing spell more effective.

If you like to kill ppl with a combination of the lightning spells, and a shock, then perhaps the thunderfall totem isn't for you.

[Toned]

Thunderfall = BURST which is what you need

[Kicksome]

I looked up a bunch of the top ele shaman on Arena Junkies a while back. They either used the Haste totem from Frost Badges or the Lava Burst one. Most used the Haste totem from Frost Badges.

None that I saw used the 119 to all spells for whatever reason. And none used the totem of Hex. Also, I didn't see any who used the flat out 200 haste totem either.

[BrothelMeister]

The haste totems dont really do you good when someone dispels only half of the flameshocks on a target. each of your shaman will start casting at a different speed, and it will throw you off.