Does anyone else see Cataclysm as The End?

[daviddoran]

I'm looking forward to cata. Heroics are a snore fest, and I just dont bother doing them any more. I'm geared on 6 toons to pug ICC 25 and am content with that. Id love to see cata being a bit more difficult. Hopefully along with that difficulty comes better rewards. As it is now, wow is a grind fest for gear. Easy to get, just time consuming. Hopefully they can fix this.

Also, all of the changes in the last year have diminished the reason many of us started boxing in the first place. No longer is putting a heroic group together such a chore, no more flying out there, summoning the lazies, dealing with DC'ers, etc etc. Other things like random BGs, dual spec, glyphs, etc etc. All of these things make me ask myself why i box in the first place?

I still plan on boxing cata, probably lvl my shamans in BGs to check out that and leave the starting zones to the gankfest that will undoubtedly ensue (pvp server) Being able to fly in azeroth, see the world revamped (i always thought it was weird that id get a quest to kill hogger, and get rewarded for doing so, and then when i run back, he's still there..... I mean I killed the bastard, why is he back?

[jinkobi]

Also, all of the changes in the last year have diminished the reason many of us started boxing in the first place. No longer is putting a heroic group together such a chore, no more flying out there, summoning the lazies, dealing with DC'ers, etc etc. Other things like random BGs, dual spec, glyphs, etc etc. All of these things make me ask myself why i box in the first place?

You're just spoiled my friend... Have you tried to pug using the heroic dungeon finder? If you're anything but a tank/healer you have to wait a long time in the queue. People still DC/go AFK. Nothing has really changed. How dual specs and Glyphs figure into the equation- well you got me there.

Like the person above me mentioned- expect a movement gimmick fest. Seems like Blizz latches onto an idea and just can't let go... IE: Vehicular combat.

Movement gimmicks are the lamest thing to come to WOW in a long time for me personally. A few here and there no big deal... But when it's every fight like the new ICC 5-mans then they can take it and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. First it isn't perfected with many places it's very difficult to see the ground effect... It's just a lame gimmick and people hate it. That includes people who don't multibox-

Really my biggest concerns with the new expansion is the bringing all the classes HP closer together. For PVP that means very long drawn out fights... Fun for maybe the first 5 mins then it gets to the point who has to take a piss first. Ever watch 2 pallies who know what they're doing duel? Yeah that crap can go on forever.

If fighting another player is going to be a longer drawn out battle. Then mobs will be long drawn out fights as well. If they're trying to make it like LOTRO which seems Blizzards damned and determined goal. You will be dead if you attempt to solo more than 2-3 mobs of your same level.

I'll buy Cat and give it a chance. Sure some fundamental changes could be made to the game as it is now. I just really love how the game at this very moment. We're looking at WOW now after 5 years of polishing and they're tossing a lot of that down the drain. My only minor complaint now is that heroics aren't challenging and we're forced to do them every day. Otherwise I love my pally+druids skills/talents/way gear effects them the way it is right now and hate to see it all scrapped for an untested design.

[Zub]

My only minor complaint now is that heroics aren't challenging and we're forced to do them every day.

Sorry, that made me /lol and /facepalm at the same time.
not sure why people play the game these days