Quote Originally Posted by Ualaa View Post
When Burning Crusade came out, we needed to run a lot of normals to have the gear for heroics. And heroics were much harder, on an order of magnitude, then the normal versions of the instances.

In Wrath, the normals are a complete push over, aside from the newest instances from 3.3, which aren't that hard. I've seen the majority of 80's in my guild receive both the instance and heroic instance achievement at once.

Naxx 25 was totally cleared in the first week of the expansion. That is pathetically easy for any raid content.
Exactly what I was saying. I remember having trouble getting through shattered halls heroic early on dispite the availability of raid geared people doing it. It was just that hard, made it fun. In wrath I've already taken my melee team through several heroics with my tank in full PvP gear and 2 of my toons only wearing gear in half of their gear slots. Heck my DK is wearing the cloth BoA caster gear he leveled in and I still had no trouble with most of the 80 heroics. I wonder how many heroics can be cleared wearing nothing but a weapon on all 5

If I can clear any heroic instance in Cataclysm without stepping foot in a normal dungeon I will consider Cata PvE a failure and use it as a purple vending machine to get ready for rated battle grounds!