Does anyone else see Cataclysm as The End?

[Kalros]

So is anyone else getting the feeling that Cataclysm is going to be what drives you away from playing WoW, at least as a Multi-boxer?

From everything I've seen posted about the changes in Cataclysm, it looks like it is going to be a hell of alot harder to multibox successfully in Cataclysm. From the return of Crowd Control, AoE tanking Nerfs, Dispells, Paladin Nerfs, etc. I'm sure these changes are not intended to hurt boxers, but they most certainly will.

I can see why single-boxers may like the changes. Content will be more difficult and challenging, and spells and abilities will be alot more 'reactive'. But the only reason I've played WoW this long is because of how much I enjoy boxing. Be it running Heroics, building new teams, doing PvP, being able to play 5 characters and do it all myself without having to rely on anyone else is why I keep playing.

I just have a bad feeling about Cataclysm overall, I guess. I will certainly play through it and hope that everything will not be as bad as I envision, but with all the game changes and 'The Old Republic' right around the corner, my days of playing WoW may end this year. Sad to say it, but I can certainly see it coming.

[Svpernova09]

I hate condescending doomsayer posts. If you don't like it, show blizzard with your money and stop playing.

At the same time, we went through this when they started announcing wrath changes. The nerdrage that ensued when they realigned buffs (specifically ToW no longer stacking + unable to chain Hero / Bloodlust) was pretty rampant, yet paladin 4 shaman are still the easiest comp to run through 1-80. I think it's far to early to tell. I'm very anxious to see what they do with the class changes. But we really won't know anything until boxers get into the beta and start the hands on testing. Anything before then is premature speculation at best.

Personally, I'm concerned with the direction. It's pretty evident all the people that made WoW successful have gone to other projects and the current team is just trying to keep it "between the ditches". I loved the Wrath expansion. I loved being able to easily / casually raid content. I hope they continue to keep this philosophy and cater the game to the masses instead of the hardcore elite. I'm just getting tired of relearning the game every patch and tired of the constant PvE nerfs to "fix" PvP.

[Slimjim19]

I think its too early to judge Cata. Classes are going to be pretty much re-designed. If anything, being a boxer going in will be nice. Especially one with multiple teams that can shuffle members around if new class combos are better.

I am waiting till they release all the class info before I make any decisions.

[Bloodcloud]

I hate condescending doomsayer posts. If you don't like it, show blizzard with your money and stop playing.

At the same time, we went through this when they started announcing wrath changes. The nerdrage that ensued when they realigned buffs (specifically ToW no longer stacking + unable to chain Hero / Bloodlust) was pretty rampant, yet paladin 4 shaman are still the easiest comp to run through 1-80. I think it's far to early to tell. I'm very anxious to see what they do with the class changes. But we really won't know anything until boxers get into the beta and start the hands on testing. Anything before then is premature speculation at best.

Personally, I'm concerned with the direction. It's pretty evident all the people that made WoW successful have gone to other projects and the current team is just trying to keep it "between the ditches". I loved the Wrath expansion. I loved being able to easily / casually raid content. I hope they continue to keep this philosophy and cater the game to the masses instead of the hardcore elite. I'm just getting tired of relearning the game every patch and tired of the constant PvE nerfs to "fix" PvP.

indeed. Most is speculation. Lets wait and see how it is.

[mrmcgee21]

Being that I can fall asleep mid heroics I hope they make the game as hard as possible because there is nothing we can't box kill that the avg retard x5 can kill. I really miss actually needing to set up focus cc stuff from BC heroics ( before they got nerfed into the ground at least ).

[Tonuss]

I don't think that they'll hurt multiboxing very badly. I do get the feeling that they don't have a problem with it but don't want it to become too prevalent, but the game as it currently runs seems to do that just fine.

My concern is the same as supernova's; as long as they keep the game within reach of casual players, I'll be happy. I'm on a server with friends again and am in a guild they joined, so I spend more time single-boxing these days. As long as the game remains fun and there is a reasonable progression path, I don't think this expansion will make me leave.

[Gramzngunz]

the sky is falling the sky is falling!!

[Kalros]

I hate condescending doomsayer posts. If you don't like it, show blizzard with your money and stop playing.

the sky is falling the sky is falling!!

Jesus F***ing Christ, I was just trying to have a civil conversation, even keeping it as tame as possible just so I could avoid these kind of flames! Do you guys just sit there at your computers hitting Refresh over and over again just waiting for someone to post something that you can flame the hell out of?!

I guess my inclusion of ". I will certainly play through it and hope that everything will not be as bad as I envision" , "I can see why single-boxers may like the changes", and "I'm sure these changes are not intended to hurt boxers" fell on deaf ears.

[Seldum]

I'm in the same boat as many of the others here. Let's see what happens.

But I must admit, many of the instances is a laugh. Maybe not to box, but definetly in PUG groups. I had though heroics would be far more difficult than what they currently are... I guess raids are the true test to skills and gear.

But who got the time to raid on specific days each week, not me.

[Svpernova09]

Jesus F***ing Christ, I was just trying to have a civil conversation, even keeping it as tame as possible just so I could avoid these kind of flames! Do you guys just sit there at your computers hitting Refresh over and over again just waiting for someone to post something that you can flame the hell out of?!

I guess my inclusion of ". I will certainly play through it and hope that everything will not be as bad as I envision" , "I can see why single-boxers may like the changes", and "I'm sure these changes are not intended to hurt boxers" fell on deaf ears.

Sounds like you only read the first sentence of my post. It wasn't meant to be directly negative to you, it's just that these kinds of posts happen all the time and they only breed negativity.

And yes, I spam F5 here but not hoping to find someone to flame, I hope to find someone who's doing something new and interesting.