5 Prot Paladins?

[BrothelMeister]

This has not been my experience at all. I'd like to be on your battlegroup. On Bloodlust everyone and their dog knows that CCing yor main and killing your alts is the way to go, and they do t in spades.

In cata, there won't be battlegroups.

And I'm talking about Battlegrounds, where the players are running around uncoordinated. Without coordination, how the hell can a bunch of people who have never met know to stun the main toon, and kill slave A ? In my experience in Battlegrounds, EVERYONE attacks the main toon, and theres never any coordinated pressure on a slave.

[remanz]

This has not been my experience at all. I'd like to be on your battlegroup. On Bloodlust everyone and their dog knows that CCing yor main and killing your alts is the way to go, and they do t in spades.

Oh totally agree here. I am also in bloodlust. (for now)

I tried DK + 4 prods. My team got bounced around in so much CC and burst, and it is not even funny. Prods have the same problem that rets have. No cleanse, getting kited. A couple fear/sheep/nova/earthbind, you will never get your full team to attack someone. When you finally get out of the CC, the prod's burst is meh for me.

This team DK + 4 prod might work in arena though since it can take a beating with divine guardian rotation as well as a lot of defensive CDs. It also had x 4 range slience + daze. So those 4 flying shield might catch healers off guard.

[Mokoi]

In cata, there won't be battlegroups.

What? Explain. I don't believe they are abolishing battlegroups...

And I'm talking about Battlegrounds, where the players are running around uncoordinated. Without coordination, how the hell can a bunch of people who have never met know to stun the main toon, and kill slave A ? In my experience in Battlegrounds, EVERYONE attacks the main toon, and theres never any coordinated pressure on a slave.

Bloodlust Battlegroup has more Boxers than any other group anywhere. We have so many there you often see another boxer in AV on the BG weekend in many games. both sides. Therefore, most groups of people have dealt with boxers and have devised clever ways to be more annoying than the average bear. Doesn't matter if that particular group of horde / alliance have never met, they have likely met a boxer in their BGs before and found what strategies are more effective than others.

[BrothelMeister]

There were only about 5 total Boxers in BattleGroup last season, 3 that I saw in arena and one that was 2k that I did not see, and a boomkin team in some BGs.

Yes, they are not going to have battlegroups for rated battlegrounds in Cata

[Alemi]

What? Explain. I don't believe they are abolishing battlegroups...

They will likely not be abolished and will stay standing for Arena matchmaking, battlegroups for battlegrounds will be going away. Each region (North America, Europe - by language IIRC, etc.) will share the same pool. Kalgan, Tom Chilton, announced that about a year ago and it was confirmed that it was rolling out as a test for Emberstorm and Whirlwind effective yesterday before they roll it out to the remaining 9.

[Vasyl]

So I've been looking into this team more, because I'll admit, I forgot about DR Can anyone confirm that AS is on DR? I've heard from a few sources that it isn't And as for no burst, I've seen prots at 80 throwing down 10k+ AS, so I'm not sure how you're not managing to burst people down with 5x Judgement -> AS -> ShotR/HoW. Also: New beta build with AS cooldown reduced to 15 seconds baseline? Yum yum. I think the group still has potential, but you just gotta remember that you're playing prot not Ret, so things will run differently. Charging up the HoPo for Shield of the Righteous is kinda nuts, my friend can lay down 22k crits with it, and with talents making it have an extra 50% crit from Judgement, its pretty sweet

[Mokoi]

Yeah, I have been enjoying my 5x Prot pallies, they have been crazy easy to global people, 5x AS is devastating, with most crits obliterating people. and the Grand Crusader refresh on it procs all the damn time, almost every HotR i get at least one and more likely 2 or 3 procs up.

[Kojii]

Thanks all for the feedback. The team, 1 prot, 4 ret, hit 21 last night and look forward to their heroic dungeon running.

Erm i thought u had a 5 pallies already? at 80? why are u creating more?

[Khatovar]

Erm i thought u had a 5 pallies already? at 80? why are u creating more?

The original post is from last March, the post you quoted is from last April. He hit 80 on them around June and probably updated his sig around the same time.

[Vasyl]

Let's keep it on topic, guys

OT: Mokoi seems to be getting it, I'm not sure [obviously I need to spend more time researching] what the Proc rate or PPM is on GC, but it does proc A LOT. I mean I was just doing UK today on my 70 pally and on some pulls its literraly just HotR -> AS repeat. And the really nice thing imo about prots is the fact that WoG can't really be "wasted" as all overheal turns into a shield. I personally love Prot, and by that alone I think I will try out the 5x prot. But on another point, the big reason I wanted to try this was because of how borked DS was, but now with the removal of the HP requirement, It will be easier to model Ret DS healing than before. If I'm not mistaken, that is the primary strength in Ret.

I have a question for you Mokoi: Are you using round robin DG? And is the survivability as nuts as I'm imagining?