What's the first "real" test?

[kate]

What do you all consider to be the first "real" test of a multi-boxing team?

For me, so far, I think it's been BRD, getting all the way to the Emperor and taking him out - being able to respond to gimmicks, having to selectively pick which opponents get hit (don't hit the princess!!), etc.

[Fursphere]

Posting on this forum and not asking a question that has not been asked 30 times already.

[kate]

Posting on this forum and not asking a question that has not been asked 30 times already.

Mea culpa maxima - I did a cursory look and didn't see this asked before.

[Fursphere]

Mea culpa maxima - I did a cursory look and didn't see this asked before.

My apologies - this was not directed at you. It was directed at all the mouth breathing retards out there that post the kind of shit I'm referring too.

You're doing just fine.

[kate]

My apologies - this was not directed at you. It was directed at all the mouth breathing retards out there that post the kind of shit I'm referring too.

You're doing just fine.

Oh, cool I felt *ahem* fursecuted!

Speaking of tests, another one:

With my level 54s I just took down a level 60 (not a challenge there) who attacked - it was more the test of reacting quickly to an unexpected assault by someone and having it not turn into a complete wipe as I tried to figure out what was going on. Alliance rogue jumped out of nowhere and nearly killed one of my ret paladins, but between popping divine protection (to keep the one from dying) hammers to stun him, 5x consecration, judgments and 4x crusader strikes we took him out before the first consecration finished.

Generally I suck at PVP, because I don't expect it and never really did much of it for real - so it was nice to be able to handle that. Of course, had it been someone higher level than that we'd all be dead.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Posting on this forum and not asking a question that has not been asked 30 times already.

lol...so true.

Kate, to answer your question, that's different for everyone. As a first test, it might be completing an instance at level and without "twinked" gear for that level. Like, doing stratholme/scholomance/dire maul at 58 without having been to outlands yet.

As a more difficult test, it might be the 80 dungeons like Halls of Stone/Lightning, Utgarde Pinnacle, etc.

As an even more difficult test, it might be doing heroics in your crafted and AH gear.

As an even more difficult test, it might be getting 1500+ in arenas and/or winning BGs, primarily because people aren't predictable like bosses are, no matter how annoying the boss mechanics can seem.

Of course, the above difficulty ratings are purely subjective and vary wildly with the class makeup. Some do better in PVE than PVP. Some are stupidly easy in non-heroics and impossible in heroics.

So, really, the final answer is: It Depends(tm). What does it depend on? What gives you a sense of satisfaction. Some folks view anyone who hasn't run heroics or raids as scrubs/idiots/mouthbreathers. Some have the same condescending view of anyone that doesn't PVP. /shrug Bottom line is that none of this matters. All that matters is that you are enjoying yourself.

[Drizzit]

moving around Dalaran without losing any of your toons :P

[Littleburst]

What do you all consider to be the first "real" test of a multi-boxing team?

For me, so far, I think it's been BRD, getting all the way to the Emperor and taking him out - being able to respond to gimmicks, having to selectively pick which opponents get hit (don't hit the princess!!), etc.

Ther isn't a real test. Most boxers are happy once they got their first HC cleared, you could maybe say clearing the 3 ICC HC's. But gear will always have a big influence.

[kate]

Ther isn't a real test. Most boxers are happy once they got their first HC cleared, you could maybe say clearing the 3 ICC HC's. But gear will always have a big influence.

My question was more about the test of the player's ability to manage their team - to be honest, I think doing certain low-level instances at or below the required level is much more challenging than most of the Heroic WOTLK dungeons.

For example, doing a full Wailing Caverns clear with a team of level 19s is much harder than doing Heroic Violet Hold with a team full of decently geared 80's. You don't have all your skills yet, the mobs can significantly outlevel you, etc. Certainly running heroics and eventually raiding is the end goal, but there are definitely some challenging things on the way. Suggesting that content that the vast majority of the playerbase will never see is the first "test" is a little overkill, IMO.

[Pocalypse]

My question was more about the test of the player's ability to manage their team - to be honest, I think doing certain low-level instances at or below the required level is much more challenging than most of the Heroic WOTLK dungeons.

For example, doing a full Wailing Caverns clear with a team of level 19s is much harder than doing Heroic Violet Hold with a team full of decently geared 80's. You don't have all your skills yet, the mobs can significantly outlevel you, etc. Certainly running heroics and eventually raiding is the end goal, but there are definitely some challenging things on the way. Suggesting that content that the vast majority of the playerbase will never see is the first "test" is a little overkill, IMO.

I agree with this. Seeing how low you can be and still complete an instance is fun. I've recently started a new mixed team on a new server, so no heirlooms, and have found I can usually complete an instances when I'm 4 levels below the final boss' level.

Example BRD, I could finish at lvl 52, with the emperor lvl 56. I got all the way to magmus at lvl 50, but he was 56 and kept resisting my taunts . DM East I could do at 54, with the final boss at 58.