Help with Elem Shaman Macro

[Ualaa]

My comma's assume a click every half second, and I have extra duration on Flame Shock for the Tier set bonus.

#show Lava Burst
/Cast Elemental Mastery
/Click MultiBarBottomRightButton7
/Click MultiBarBottomRightButton8
/Click MultiBarBottomRightButton9
/Click MultiBarBottomRightButton10
/use Endless Mana Potion
/use 13
/use 14

#show Flame Shock
/castsequence reset=combat Flame Shock,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,

#show Lava Burst
/castsequence reset=combat Lava Burst,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

#show Chain Lightning
/castsequence reset=combat Chain Lightning,,,,,,

And Lightning Bolt, from the spell book.




*Edit*
There is no space between groups of commas.
The forum adds that, for some reason.

[Hellektro]

My comma's assume a click every half second, and I have extra duration on Flame Shock for the Tier set bonus.

#show Lava Burst
/Cast Elemental Mastery
/Click MultiBarBottomRightButton7
/Click MultiBarBottomRightButton8
/Click MultiBarBottomRightButton9
/Click MultiBarBottomRightButton10
/use Endless Mana Potion
/use 13
/use 14

#show Flame Shock
/castsequence reset=combat Flame Shock,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,

#show Lava Burst
/castsequence reset=combat Lava Burst,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

#show Chain Lightning
/castsequence reset=combat Chain Lightning,,,,,,

And Lightning Bolt, from the spell book.




*Edit*
There is no space between groups of commas.
The forum adds that, for some reason.

Thanks for the reply. I will play around with the setup you have.

[Greythan]

Mine is a near mirror image of Ualaa's.

[zenga]

Make sure that you re check your flame shock duration. Since it's influenced now by haste. On my ele's I have 3 times a different amount of comma's.

[Igg]

How do you guys deal with the varying amount of haste like elemental mastery going off or heroism?
Set your macro for too long of a delay and flameshock goes off or too few and lava burst gets unused for a few sec.

too early and you'll be standing still and waiting for cool down.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I dont know the timings as I dont use this "maxdps" stuff myself but you can do this better with IsBoxer by checking the button "do not advance to the next step for X seconds" and just having one step per cast.

So IsBoxer - Keymaps - New Key Map - Mapped Keys - Step One - New WoW Macro - /cast flame shock

"Do not advance to the next step for 4 seoncds (or whatever the flame shock cast time and gcd is well 2.5 I guess)

Then for step 2 you do /cast Lava Burst and make the do not advance for Lave Burst cast time plus gcd (plus about .5 seconds I would guess to account for lag depending on your latency)


Step 3 would be /cast chain lightning with the "do not advance" set to cast time of CL and its gcd

Step 4 would be /cast lightning bolt with the "do not advance" set to cast time of LB and its gcd



What happens is that the first key press causes step one to fire, the 2nd press of that key, if done before the set time will not do anything. ONly keypress after the set time will trigger anything (say you said "do not advance to the next step for 4 seconds" then after you press the key the first time if the 2nd press is before 4 seconds after the first press nothing happens. You then press again and if its after the 4 second "lock out" then the 2nd step fires, if not then again nothing happens. The fact that its not a delay (you must press the key again if you press it before the lock out time) but a "lock out" keeps it legal from what Lax explains and what seems resonable enough to me. You must always press the key for something to occur, this just lets you spam (like all the ,,,,,, above) and stops some key presses from doing anything.


If the gcd on LB makes the whole 4 steps over the cd on /flame shock then yur done! If not add in some LB's untill you are over the Flame shock cool down.


Now you can spam at any rate and assuming you spam at .25 seconds intervals you will be at close to single character dps (actually probabaly better lol). As the faster you spam the more dps you do (well maybe like 4 percent mroe by spamming twice as fast or something). I am sure this is more dps then one person controling a single toon and mouse moving / clicking on icons for each spell cast.

I've never used /click as its clear you have to press at some known rate so you know how many ,,,,, to insert. I just think that you can't always press at .5 second intervals or whatever you are planning on.


I know this explantion is hard to follow maybe our resident IsBoxer experts Lax or Ualaa can rephrase it with additional clarity.

[Khatovar]

"do not advance to the next step for X seconds"

What happens is that the first key press causes step one to fire, the 2nd press of that key, if done before the set time will not do anything. ONly keypress after the set time will trigger anything (say you said "do not advance to the next step for 4 seconds" then after you press the key the first time if the 2nd press is before 4 seconds after the first press nothing happens. You then press again and if its after the 4 second "lock out" then the 2nd step fires, if not then again nothing happens.

You can't create macros that work off of timed delays in game, and you can't have the game make decisions for you {if x amount of time has passed, allow this, otherwise...}. Using external programs to circumvent that would be against the rules.

[Sam DeathWalker]

How do you guys deal with the varying amount of haste like elemental mastery going off or heroism?
Set your macro for too long of a delay and flameshock goes off or too few and lava burst gets unused for a few sec.

too early and you'll be standing still and waiting for cool down.

If you want absolute maxdps you'll need to have another key with different timings, one set for no haste buffs, another set for when you have one hast buff, and other for whatever haste combos you can think might be on you.

Its not easy thats why its taken me like another 3 months to redo my hardware and software but .....

Still if you are just playing shaman and you are talented and glyphed for the FS/LB/CL (LB?) rotation and thats always your maxdps haveing extra keys dependant on haste isnt all that hard.

[Sam DeathWalker]

You can't create macros that work off of timed delays in game, and you can't have the game make decisions for you {if x amount of time has passed, allow this, otherwise...}. Using external programs to circumvent that would be against the rules.



I had that concern at first but becuase its a lock out, not a delay it seems OK to me. You are correct if it was a Delay it would be illegal for sure. But again exactly what rule does this violate?



... I thought it was illegal also at the first but after Lax explained it to me it seems ok. It follows the one action one press rule. And remember, if you press once it fires, if you press the 2nd time inside the time limit it does nothing you STILL have to press after the time limit for anything to be done.

Its the same as the ,,,,,, are they not telling you that the key press is to do nothing if the press is done at a time interval known to you (i.e. your press rate). You are inserting a delay based upon your click interval (which I assume you know what your click interval is), how is this different?


Or if you spam a single spell and its cool down is not up the press does nothing .... again how is this different then that?

Yet antoher way to look at it is if you have 4 different keys, one for each step/macro. If you spam 1-2-3-4 what happens? Well if you hit key 1 then pressed key 2 before the gcd was up from the spell on key one nothing would happen. You could press key 2 many many times and if the gcd on key 1 was not expired then nothing happens. Surely if its clearly legal with 4 keys then its legal with one key (and again with 4 keys its better cause the game will adjust for haste effects for you instead of you have to miss out a bit).

[Khatovar]

I had that concern at first but becuase its a lock out, not a delay it seems OK to me. You are correct if it was a Delay it would be illegal for sure. But again exactly what rule does this violate?

And how do you do this in game? /castsequence spell, null is how lockouts are created with ingame macros. No matter how you create that macro, you cannot use ingame means to tell that macro to progress to another macro after exactly x seconds and not before. You are using a delay to interfere with the game.

... I thought it was illegal also at the first but after Lax explained it to me it seems ok. It follows the one action one press rule. And remember, if you press once it fires, if you press the 2nd time inside the time limit it does nothing you STILL have to press after the time limit for anything to be done.

Its the same as the ,,,,,, are they not telling you that the key press is to do nothing if the press is done at a time interval known to you (i.e. your press rate). You are inserting a delay based upon your click interval (which I assume you know what your click interval is), how is this different?

It also only takes action based on timed actions that can only be processed via an external program. There is no way for you to use ingame macros to mirror the same actions. Innerspace is deciding what spells you cast and when, not you. People using /click macros have to guesstimate based on averages for DPS. If their click rate is not steady, or they have to go "off script", their DPS will be altered. Your method, however, removes all that tradeoff and allows you to basically say "cast this until I can cast this other spell". Your means does not care if you press the button or not, only how long your cooldowns have been ticking.

Or if you spam a single spell and its cool down is not up the press does nothing .... again how is this different then that?

We aren't talking about 1 spell, we are talking about an entire sequence.

Yet antoher way to look at it is if you have 4 different keys, one for each step/macro. If you spam 1-2-3-4 what happens? Well if you hit key 1 then pressed key 2 before the gcd was up from the spell on key one nothing would happen. You could press key 2 many many times and if the gcd on key 1 was not expired then nothing happens. Surely if its clearly legal with 4 keys then its legal with one key (and again with 4 keys its better cause the game will adjust for haste effects for you instead of you have to miss out a bit).

No, what you're doing is pressing 1234 and Innerspace is saying "at 0.0sec allow 1. at 0.1 seconds, allow 1.......at 1.5sec allow 2. at 2.5 allow 2. at 4.0sec allow 3...." If I spam 1234, what I get depends wholly on what key was actually pressed first. I press 1, it's going to be 1 that is received and processed by the server. Not 1 unless 2 is availiable.