Druid issue with Shammy Chain Lightning

[crowdx]

I am not sure if it linked correctly for you, my tank is in his tank gear
I think your points are really what I needed, coming from a Pally it was more about watching mana, which was never an issue, but the druid probably will take more practice to watch his rage and make sure he has enough rage up.
I think I will just use swipe and forget any rotation until I am better geared

EDIT: Looking at your linked toon it also seems as if I just gem stamina for all sockets, no point in any other stat?

[Ughmahedhurtz]

My bear uses maul in his castsequence (lacerate, swipe, maul, swipe) and he never ever has rage issues. Especially with the rage generation from incoming damage. I suspect the problem with rage on ubergeared bears is the same as ubergeared warriors in lowbie instances: not enough incoming damage to generate rage so you only get it from hits, thus the "spam cleave/swipe" advice.

I could be wrong and my bear is only sitting at about 3200 gearscore.

[genocyde]

My bear uses maul in his castsequence (lacerate, swipe, maul, swipe) and he never ever has rage issues. Especially with the rage generation from incoming damage. I suspect the problem with rage on ubergeared bears is the same as ubergeared warriors in lowbie instances: not enough incoming damage to generate rage so you only get it from hits, thus the "spam cleave/swipe" advice.

I could be wrong and my bear is only sitting at about 3200 gearscore.

Actually my rage generation was fine as I overgeared everything thanks to the talent natural reaction (gain rage on dodge) and hitting way harder + more crits for more rage procs. Plus once you overgear to a certain extent you can just pull more mobs

I think most peoples problem with aoe threat gen on bears is that everyone macros maul to swipe. You definately don't "need" maul to aoe tank and it can cause rage problems early on in a fight depending on how you geared. I made a habit of keeping maul off of my swipe key. You can always tap another key if for some reason your capped on rage and decide to add maul in for extra damage. Also should go without saying but make sure you keep thorns up, every little bit helps.

[Drizzit]

I am not sure if it linked correctly for you, my tank is in his tank gear
I think your points are really what I needed, coming from a Pally it was more about watching mana, which was never an issue, but the druid probably will take more practice to watch his rage and make sure he has enough rage up.
I think I will just use swipe and forget any rotation until I am better geared

EDIT: Looking at your linked toon it also seems as if I just gem stamina for all sockets, no point in any other stat?

Yea, i looked at your wrong toon. You didn't link the toon name until later so i going on each link on your sign and i thought i x of the correct one. Oh well, but yea the new talent tree you help you a ton and adding the maul would be good. There really isn't a rotation for non-boss mobs, we lucked out and have a easy aoe rotation swipe/maul. Single target is easy too but just a couple more buttons to press and dots that need to be refreshed.

Rage is a big issue, i was always like qq warrior saying rage is bad, but now i know what they mean. It took me about a week of heroics to figure out how everything works with rage. Found out just watch your rage when there is only 1 mob left.

The other problem that i see is your gear. Not saying that you suck and get gear, everyone has to start somewhere. I would try to get your T9 helm first so you can get the meta, but only get the helm first if you can meet the meta requirement (i think i got it 2nd or 3rd because i couldnt meet the requirement). Then work on getting a really good weapon, Heroic VH has a really good 200lvl weapon for druid off the last boss which is a good drop rate. After that it is HoR, which i was using until last week. I found that the weapon generates a huge amount of agro. When you get your Heroic VH weapon mongoose it (unless you can do Heroic HoR without a problem, then hold off on mongoose because it cost some gold for the mats now). So just do Heroic VH everyday till weapon drops, which is a easy heroic.

For gemming.... it depends on what you want to do with your druid tank. If you just want to do heroics, i say stack till you get 35k health in bear form with no buffs and then stack agility (more damage = more agro). At 35k health it should be easy to heal. If you want to raid tank, then it is all stam. I just remembered, you want your hit around 200 and your expertise around 26 for a min. You cannot get agro if you are not hitting them. In my opinion i would gem till i have at least 200 hit and 25 expertise. I had to gem for hit, because before i got my chest i was sitting at 80 hit. My funds are a little low so that is why i still have hit. Sense you are in starting gear i wouldn't gem with epics right now unless you can afford them or unless you are going to keep them for a long time.

I think i am something like 61k health in icc with buffs and when my organ procs i have like something like 64k or something. I will try to find out my health next raid. Plus i am switching my gems around (getting the hit gems out now that i just got my new chest) and going JC so probably getting like another 138 or so more stam.