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    Default BG marks = honor 3.3.3 UPDATE(3/14)

    Patch 3.3.3 Battlegrounds and Honor Changes
    Patch 3.3.3 brings a couple of changes to the Battleground system, the new system is heavily inspired from the current random dungeon system and it should be pretty easy to understand.

    Random Battleground and Call to Arms
    Call to Arms are no longer a quests and are directly integrated to the battlegrounds interface, a new "Random Battleground" option has been added and give you the same honor bonus as the Call To Arms, but applied to any battleground.


    • The first time you win a Call to Arms or a Random Battleground, you gain 30 Honorable Kills worth of bonus honor and 25 Arena points.
    • Losing the battleground doesn't remove the ability to get this bonus, you can just try again.
    • After you won a Random Battleground or a Call To Arms for the first time of the day, the bonus is lowered to 15 Honorable Kills worth of bonus honor.
    • You can only get the 30 HK bonus honor for a Call to Arms or a Random Battleground once in a day, the bonuses aren't "stackable" and both are lowered to 15 HK. (See screenshot)



    Honor Prices Changes / Battleground Marks Removal
    All the battleground marks are being removed from the game.


    • Players will be able to exchange all their marks (AV, AB, EoTS, IQ, SoTA, WG) for Commendation of Service. Each Commendation of Service costs 1 mark and rewards you with 185 Honor.
    • All the items bought with marks had their price changed and can now be bought with honor only.
    • If you're interested in the old PvP rewards (some of them looked pretty nice), their price was also changed and it will be much easier to get them. Expect to spend 25,000 honor for a 2H weapon and 13,000 for a 1H. A full pre-BC epic PvP set will cost you 74,000 Honor.


    Of course some of the price changes are more interesting than the others, for example you don't have to farm marks anymore to get your PvP mounts and you can just buy them for 50,000 Honor.



    Just as a reminder, this is the PvP part of the Patch 3.3.3 PTR Notes, just in case you want to hear it from the blues.
    Quote from: Zarhym (Source)
    PvP

    • The amount of Honor awarded for an Honorable Kill has been increased by 100% for characters of all levels. This change will effectively double the amount of Honor received from Honorable Kills, or for completing Battleground and Wintergrasp objectives; however, the amount of experience gained from completing Battleground objectives and the amount of Honor rewarded for completing each Wintergrasp quest remain unchanged.


    Battlegrounds

    • The Random Battleground system has been added! Similar to the Random Dungeon system in the Dungeon Finder, players can now queue for a random Battleground.
      • The Random Battleground option can be found in the Battleground tab of the PvP frame and is only available for level 80 characters at this time.
      • If this option is selected, players may not queue for specific Battlegrounds and a random Battleground simultaneously.
      • Similar to the Random Dungeon system, players will not know for which Battleground they are chosen when selected from the queue until they zone into the Battleground.
      • The Random Battleground option will only allow a group size of 5 players to queue together.
      • Bonus rewards will be offered for choosing the Random Battleground option.
      • Winning a Battleground using the Random Battleground option for the first time in a day will award players with 30 Honorable Kills worth of additional Honor currency and 25 Arena points.
      • Winning additional Battlegrounds using the Random Battleground option after the first random win will award players with 15 Honorable Kills worth of additional Honor currency.
      • Losing a Battleground using the Random Battleground option will award players with 5 Honorable Kills worth of additional Honor currency.

    • Daily Battleground quests have been removed in place of the Random Battleground option.
    • Battlegrounds will no longer award Marks of Honor.
      • Players with existing Marks of Honor can still turn them in to their respective faction's quest givers, including individual marks for those who may have more marks for one Battleground than another.
      • Items which previously required Marks of Honor will have their costs adjusted to remove these requirements.

    • Whenever a Battleground has the holiday bonus active, it will now be referred to as "Call to Arms" in the Battleground tab and Calendar. In addition, Call to Arms Battleground Honor rewards have been changed.
      • Choosing a specific Battleground with the Call to Arms bonus active will yield the exact same rewards as when choosing the Random Battleground option.
        • Winning a Call to Arms Battleground for the first time in a day will award players with 30 Honorable Kills worth of additional Honor currency and 25 Arena points.
        • Additional Call to Arms Battleground victories after the first win for a player that day will award them with 15 Honorable Kills worth of additional Honor currency.
        • Losing a Call to Arms Battleground will award players with 5 Honorable Kills worth of additional Honor currency.
        • When using the Random Battleground option, players will not receive additional rewards if the Battleground chosen is under the Call to Arms bonuses. In addition, the rewards for the first victory of the day cannot be earned more than once, regardless of whether or not it is obtained from the Random Battleground system or the Call to Arms Battleground.



    Last edited by Fat Tire : 03-14-2010 at 01:04 PM

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    When is this going to happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
    When is this going to happen?

    When the patch goes live.

    "When does the patch go live?"

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    gosh i might get like 30000 honor come patch

    that's pretty underwhelming

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyaz View Post
    gosh i might get like 30000 honor come patch

    that's pretty underwhelming

    Well, you can't have them ruining the gem market

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    I spent well over 30min last week deleting 5 full mail boxes of AV marks, so this may almost give me a better reason to keep my mail mark free in future. Good stuff, thanks for the heads-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyaz View Post
    gosh i might get like 30000 honor come patch

    that's pretty underwhelming

    Better than nothing......kinda.

    With the amount of honor that is increasing thru Hks etc. I dont think honor will be that much of a grind anymore, atleast the rest of this expansion anyways.

    Edit: I have 26 lvl 80s(I dont play them all anymore though) and I know for sure that each of them have 100 AV marks. 26x18500= 481,000 free honor or 48 gems, just from AV alone.
    Last edited by Fat Tire : 03-03-2010 at 12:52 PM

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    My only concern with this is the PvP mounts, and just for characters below 80. I know alot of people dont care about mounts, but I do, and I liked the fact that I was able to get 2-3 of the PvP mounts as I was leveling up a team through Battlegrounds. yes, it still took some effort, but was very do-able.

    Right now on the PTR, the PvP mounts are 50,000 honor each, which really isnt that hard to get when you are 80, but at 60, its damn-near impossible. I am currently leveling a team who've done a TON of BGs, gotten 3 PvP mounts (2 black, 1 AV wolf) and have spent ZERO honor on anything, and they only have a grand total of 32K lifetime honor. So double that (since you'll be getting double the honor) and thats still only 64K, which is enough to buy 1 mount with a little left over.

    The current price doesnt scale well, I guess I'm saying. But obviously you cant make them cost 16K each or everyone will have every mount without any effort.

    So basically what we have now is that its going to be very easy for high level folks to get the PvP ground mounts (which they'll probably never use) and very hard for lower level characters to get them (who would actually use them). Kinda blows.

    Rant over. Carry on.
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    Last edited by Fat Tire : 03-03-2010 at 02:05 PM

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    The above photo will be available in the next patch for over 9000 honor



































































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