Upcoming Battleground Changes

[MiRai]

Upcoming battleground changes. There is a PTR patch coming soon...I would assume it holds these changes.

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/23307...e-horizon.html

[Svpernova09]

Info from the link above

We have several changes planned for Battlegrounds in the next minor content patch and would like to share them with you now. This patch will be available for public testing and we encourage you to participate, queue up and provide some feedback on these changes.

• Firstly, say goodbye to Battleground Marks of Honor. We feel this currency system is a bit outdated and are getting rid of it. Any items which require these marks as currency will have their costs adjusted appropriately to remove this requirement. The quest NPCs will still be available to award players Honor for turning in leftover marks, but this is only to help players clear this expired currency.
• Next, the Battleground holiday weekend will now be denoted as "Call to Arms" in the Battleground tab and Calendar. If you prefer a specific Battleground over all others, look for those words next to its name to determine whether or not you'll receive bonus Honor. The bonus awards for Call to Arms Battlegrounds have been adjusted.
  
  • Winning a Call to Arms Battleground for the first time in a day will award players with 30 Honorable Kills worth of additional Honor currency.
  • Additional Call to Arms Battleground victories after the first win for a player that day will award them with 15 Honorable Kills worth of additional Honor currency.
  • Losing a Call to Arms Battleground will award players with 5 Honorable Kills worth of additional Honor currency.
  
  
• To bring the rate at which players obtain PvP rewards with Honor more in-line with the rate at which players obtain PvE rewards via the Dungeon Finder, we'll also be increasing the amount of Honor awarded for an Honorable Kill by 100%. In light of this, the amount of experience provided from an Honorable Kill, and the amount of Honor awarded for completing the Wintergrasp weekly quests, have been reduced by 50%.
  
  It's important to note one thing about these 50% decreases. All Honor awarded for completing objectives in Battlegrounds and Wintergrasp is actually based on an Honorable Kill conversion rate. So if you destroy a tower in Alterac Valley for example, the Honor you're awarded is actually based on a flat number of Honorable Kills. Since Honorable Kills will now award 100% more Honor, completing such objectives will also award more Honor. This is why experience gains based on completing Battleground objectives and Honor awarded from the Wintergrasp quests are being decreased by 50%.
• Now that we hopefully have your attention, we're pleased to announce the implementation of the Random Battleground system! This system will work virtually the same as the Random Dungeon option in the Dungeon Finder. Players can queue with a group of up to five players for a Random Battleground in the Battleground tab. As with the Random Dungeon option, the Battleground chosen will not be revealed until players zone into the Battleground for which they are selected. The bonus rewards for this system are identical to the updated Call to Arms bonuses.
  
  • Winning a Battleground using the Random Battleground option for the first time in a day will award players with 30 Honorable Kills worth of additional Honor currency.
  • Winning additional Battlegrounds using the Random Battleground option after the first random win will award players with 15 Honorable Kills worth of additional Honor currency.
  • Losing a Battleground using the Random Battleground option will award players with 5 Honorable Kills worth of additional Honor currency.
  • When using the Random Battleground option, players will not receive additional rewards if the Battleground chosen is under the effects of the Call to Arms bonuses. In other words, the bonuses do not stack. In addition, if a player has been rewarded 30 Honorable Kills worth of bonus Honor currency from either the Random Battleground system, or the Call to Arms Battleground, he or she will be rewarded 15 Honorable Kills worth of bonus Honor currency that day for each additional victory. This applies whether the Random Battleground system is used, or the Call to Arms Battleground is chosen specifically, as a player cannot be rewarded the full amount of bonus Honor more than once per day.

All of these features and changes will be available in the next minor patch which should be hitting the public test realms in the near future. Please help us out by testing this system and providing your feedback so we can make some fine-tuning adjustments before the patch's release.

[Fat Tire]

Thanks for the link.


This doesnt seem confusing at all, nope.

[asonimie]

Scared me when I first read WG quests -50%, but it's actually a net change of zero so no problem.

[Fat Tire]

After re reading and understanding a bit better, this is really a pretty good deal. 62 per honor atm, 124 honor per kill after this is implemented.

I would imagine they will have to increase the honor cap soon with this change.

[Siaea]

Scared me when I first read WG quests -50%, but it's actually a net change of zero so no problem.

Yea, I don't know if I like that or not. Since I started leveling my Alliance shaman (42 with no RAF--woot!) I've only done WG when I see it pop and I'm not in the middle of something. The random thing sounds neat, but also WSG and AB can be a problem with a 5 box.

[heyaz]

Ah that sounds great. So upping the honor, getting rid of marks, and a random queue system. BGs might actually be fun, or at the very least, an efficient use of time.

The current situation is so bad I only do the daily or BG for fun. You can get double or triple the honor just farming heroics.

[Kicksome]

Ah that sounds great. So upping the honor, getting rid of marks, and a random queue system. BGs might actually be fun, or at the very least, an efficient use of time.

The current situation is so bad I only do the daily or BG for fun. You can get double or triple the honor just farming heroics.

You can get honor farming heroics? How does that work exactly?

[MiRai]

You can get honor farming heroics? How does that work exactly?

Stone Keeper's Shards turned into the guy in Wintergrasp reward honor. 30 Shards = 2000 Honor.

I believe you are only rewarded 4 per boss though. So even in a heroic with 5 bosses you can't purchase 1 www.wowhead.com/?item=Wintergrasp Commendation. On the Bloodlust battlegroup [where Kicksome, myself, and numerous others reside] AV queues don't take that long; and when boxers unite it's tough to lose so you're pretty much guaranteed around 2000 honor per AV which takes about 15-20 minutes. If you're on a bad battlegroup I can see farming heroics being a better option than waiting in AV queues 20 minutes at a time.

[cmeche]

Stone Keeper's Shards turned into the guy in Wintergrasp reward honor. 30 Shards = 2000 Honor.

I believe you are only rewarded 4 per boss though. So even in a heroic with 5 bosses you can't purchase 1 www.wowhead.com/?item=Wintergrasp Commendation. On the Bloodlust battlegroup [where Kicksome, myself, and numerous others reside] AV queues don't take that long; and when boxers unite it's tough to lose so you're pretty much guaranteed around 2000 honor per AV which takes about 15-20 minutes. If you're on a bad battlegroup I can see farming heroics being a better option than waiting in AV queues 20 minutes at a time.

I agree. AV que times for Reckoning Alliance side are 1-3 min. I have been getting an average of 1600 honor per win, 600-800 per loss. I will even get into an AV where the only thing horde does is run straight to Van and kill him within the first 5 min of the start. With Galv down and Balinda still up.....HOrde wins but gets ~300 honor.....Alliance looses and gets 800 honor. 800 honor for 5 mins is pretty dern good.