Now that my DK tank is where I want him.....

[blbjtb]

Thanks Vecter and perhaps I should make it more clear what im trying to say... Our Raid comp is mostly Melee (Ret and Fury) That being said I would ASSUME that the boxing build would pan out the same.. I mean who doesnt want 20% haste and 10% AP HOWEVER; Im somewhat concered about the whole no Will of the necro and no heartstrike.. But I feel what I dont bring to the table Threat/DPS I more than provide in raid support.... Perhaps this is what I should have posted....

[daviddoran]

if you plan on raiding, be serious about it, otherwise, don't bother. You might get away with it in large 25 man raids, if everything goes smoothly but when things go wrong, they might start kicking out the fails.

If you REALLY want to have a boxing tank spec, raiding tank spec and raiding DPS spec, then you gotta do it old school style, buy lots of extra glyphs, and change specs the old fashioned way. I mean how often would you be raiding as opposed to everything else? If you plan on raiding as tank, or as dps, keep that as one of your 2 specs, and use your boxing tank spec as the other one. Use an addon like talented, to store talent specs, and import from sites such as wowhead. With talented having a third spec is as easy as going to your class trainer, unlearning talents, and applying a template. Only a bit more complicated than the built in dual-spec feature.

[Funnyshane]

If you are finding your raid is melee heavy, chances are youll already have the buffs your speccing for covered by another player. For instance you could have a enh shaman covering the haste and ap, a marks hunter covering the ap, or even another dk covering one of them. Personally Id go with a pure tanking build because while the dps buffs are nice, at the end of the day if your tank is squishy it isnt going to help you out a lot :P

[blbjtb]

I can agree with the last statement.. Problem is my team is REALLY stacked two types we dont have a hunter another dk or and enh shaman lol we have rets and fury.... LOL sadly im not kidding.


Screw it im just going to have two tanking builds for the time being... I figure shit if I need to switch specks and Go dps the cash really is a non issue.

[ghonosyph]

imo you have 4 rets, use THEM for dps and just focus on your tank as a tank. Given that your raid is HEAVILY stacked for melee as you say, the odds of you getting to dps/getting dps gear is LARGELY up to either offspec drops or solo/multiboxing play for you. It wouldn't really make sence, and even IF you do spec your second tank spec for multiboxing, realize with a quick gear swap and strong knowledge of the class/mechanics you can still do very good dmg not the best, but good enough. I wouldn't really worry about dps as a focus for your dk unless its pvp dps anyway Odds are all the other melee in the raid will get pissed if you start stealing their gear lol

The traditional tank build is what you want, yes the haste is nice, but CAN be provided by another player, and its not really that big a bonus that the risk > reward. In the end you're still gonna give the raid either A) 10 % ap or B) the haste buff , depending on what spec (blood or frost) you choose, and that's better than nothing

Everyone here is right however, if you're gonna tank, tank right You'll gain more respect and pugs will love you better

[blbjtb]

http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc...00000000000000

Went with this spec =) so far so good =)