Ya i checked EJ as well my thing is I dont want to have to change specs everytime I feel like I want to DPS. and as far as my 2 builds go I dont want to have one for Boxing and one for raid... Id much much rather have my Boxing/raid tank build be the same thus leaving me another slot for DPS raid build. I mean the only things im missing out on are Will of the necropolis and Heartstrike... Heartstrike is obviously the one of most concern to me... unless wikk of the nec works like ardent defender with the 35% gimick... So idk...