Thanks Vecter and perhaps I should make it more clear what im trying to say... Our Raid comp is mostly Melee (Ret and Fury) That being said I would ASSUME that the boxing build would pan out the same.. I mean who doesnt want 20% haste and 10% AP HOWEVER; Im somewhat concered about the whole no Will of the necro and no heartstrike.. But I feel what I dont bring to the table Threat/DPS I more than provide in raid support.... Perhaps this is what I should have posted....