5 resto druids

[Owltoid]

The great part about this team is I can try it tonight! The Owltoids are coming off the bench, baby! Their gear isn't that good, though it is almost full PvP from two seasons ago, and mostly moonkin, but it should be a decent starting point. At least I can be an immediate benefit to AVs... if we can't take out the boss + 1 guard with 5 restos then we're fizucked anyway.

[gitcho]

I've come to the conclusion that I'm just not very good at PvP. I'm ok with that. What I want is for a team to have ultimate survivability while slowly killing the opposition. I'm guessing that will be 5 of some sort of healer.

lol - i'm teh suck @ pvp as well - thanks for making me feel better.

I ran 5 resto druids up to 80 recently exclusively in AV. It was the most boxer love i've seen and tons of fun. Wild Growth is an amazing spell, and just crazy x5. It was awesome to be the difference maker as I sat at the back of the group as we marched forward

4.) I always hear it's impossible to kill a tree 1v1. As a multiboxer, what ways can I make sure it's impossible to kill a tree with 5 focusing on 1 target at once?

it can be impossible to kill a tree 5v1. My 5 shamans in full furious/deadly gear, and I couldn't down this 1 tree in WSG 2days ago. I sat there spamming FS,LB,CL,LVB against him for a good 30 seconds while he spammed hots and heals on himself ... maybe my rotation was wrong, or my SP wasn't high enough (almost 2000), but I couldn't down him .... I'm looking forward to gearing my 5 trees for rated BG's
**EDIT** omigosh - how did i forget purge?? guh!!

I think you'd have a tough time in arena's (I didn't last long when I tried), but you'd rock in AV.

[Owltoid]

Treeform ups your heals by a large margin, and armor as well. But it precludes most of your offensive spells.

I could be wrong, but I believe improved tree gives you 200% armor increase versus non-shapeshifted of 160%. While still a decent difference, I don't believe the extra 40% armor and 6% healing would be beneficial enough to not have offensive firepower. The really nice thing about tree form is the 20% reduction in HoT mana cost. I may initially start out with 5 trees just to practice staying alive and not worrying about any damage. From there, if I find out that I can easily survive anything, then I'll start figuring out how to get offensive powers in there.

Not having tree form will eventually save 4 talent points, too, which is nice because as I play with this build I'm finding that I need every one I can get.

[Owltoid]

I think you'd have a tough time in arena's (I didn't last long when I tried), but you'd rock in AV.

Other than not being able to kill anything, why are you having trouble in arenas? I'm only concerned because you said you didn't last long and I'm wondering if their focus fire is just too much. Was it gear, practice, or just not a survivable combo?

Yeah, I remember floating this idea around when I was first playing my moonkins, but I never gave it a true shot. Coming to the conclusion that I don't have anywhere near the skill that Kromtor, Ellay, and other accomplished PvPers on this forum have, it's time to be damn annoying and hopefully usefull in certain situations!

[gitcho]

I'm wondering if their focus fire is just too much. Was it gear, practice, or just not a survivable combo?

yes

i'm not an arena guru, but you'll never be able to do enough damage that their healer can't easily heal through. Fears will eat you alive (can't heal the toon being focused), and even if you do, you'll run out of mana healing your group long before he will.

In BG's, you're not focused for long periods of time as much as arena - and your HPS on a focused team member at the front of the pack is just awesome - unless someone can kill them in 1 global, they're invincible - and they will love you for it.

[Fuzzyboy]

Offopic: On the other hand, 4 resto shamans might be fun (although hardly viable). They don't suffer from having to shapeshift, they can resist fears with totems and earthshield, riptide etc might keep you up for a long time.

[cmeche]

I recently lvled up 4 druids. I quested as Boomkin and BG'd as resto. Resto was a blast to play with 4....especially for mass encounters. But.....If i was caught alone guarding a bunker, two dps could eventually break me down with a stun, cc, interupt...something. It would take a while, but they would eventually get me down.
So, I learned to follow at least 1 dps around to back cap and defend stuff. With someone else dps'ing while you only need to heal(especially in tree form).....thats when it got epic.



....and i would also agree....resto shammys would be alot easier to dps when need be. You just wont get the nice hots.

[Naysayer]

SW: pains, holy nova spam, instant smites, SW:death is decent offense on a 5xhealer team. Sneak in a holy fire and you can drop people easily. The only problem with priests though is they have 1/10th the lasting power of other healers when it comes to mana.

[5fingersofdoom]

I dual specced 5 of my Shamans into resto and ran around AV chain healing for God 4-5 months back.
It was fun for a while but even with Tremor Totes, soon devolved into the usual stun /fear and AoE carpet bombing.
From what I experienced once the op4 figures out you have no teeth they will just swarm you until dead,however if you have aware teamates who can pvp buffer/stay with you in AV its an unstoppable juggernaut.
Hope this helps.

[heyaz]

Still not any evidence that any number of druids is even remotely viable in arena, or even pvp in general. On paper they look great, but in practice: no so much. I think that's why this topic keeps coming up.

I've done 4x resto shaman in full relentless, 5400GS, and it's a gimmick that gets old in about 2 days. You can't heal people to death. Ultimately you find the team susceptible to the same tactics that work against a dps comp, only it takes a little longer to die and you don't kill anyone in the meantime.