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    Quote Originally Posted by Noids View Post
    The demo warlock SP buff to raid is called Demonic Pact yeah? I thought this only increased raid SP by 10% of your total spell power and wasn't additional to ToW buff. I am not sure if this is what you are mentioning here because without armory-ing your lock (I realilse your toons are well geared) I am assuming it doesn't have 4300SP. If so then awesome, if not, then please enlighten me as to my misunderstanding.

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    my lock with basic buffs and flask has around 4300, when trinket pops its around 4800ish.

    Incinerate would make sense too, its just a simple line that needs to be added



    edit. After testing SB with 3.3.2 buffs hits harder than inc, so i just removed immolate from click sequence.
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    Niley, fix your title spelling. Nobody can find your "demology click macro" thread. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz View Post
    Niley, fix your title spelling. Nobody can find your "demology click macro" thread. :P
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    I tried demonology on an heroic during the weekend, it really dropped my dps compared to Destro. I really felt I was doing something wrong even though I used a cookie cutter demo build with the click macros Niley posted.
    Any thoughts?

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    It might be based on your gearing.
    Niley has pretty kick ass gear across his team.
    That's about the only thing I can think of.
    Maybe at a certain gear point, there's not much difference between the specs, but at lower levels of gear Destro is better.

    His main team (I think) is Pally, Warlock, 3x Shaman.
    So his lock gets all of the shammy goodness too.
    Not sure which buffs your lock gets, as comparison.
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    Well both my locks are in all Triumph badge gear with Merlin's Robe and the Sword from Heroic FoS. So specced Destro they hit about 4k on a boss. When I respecced one to demon he lost about 1k in dps.
    If you look at Dailyauction and his offspec, that is the demo spec I used.
    It was very disappointing

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    Quote Originally Posted by crowdx View Post
    Well both my locks are in all Triumph badge gear with Merlin's Robe and the Sword from Heroic FoS. So specced Destro they hit about 4k on a boss. When I respecced one to demon he lost about 1k in dps.
    If you look at Dailyauction and his offspec, that is the demo spec I used.
    It was very disappointing
    Fel Domination and Master Summoner are wasted talent points...
    And 1 point in Improved Curse of Agony? CoE if you have 1 lock. Best curse in the game (13% more damage, essentially).
    Finally, you don't have Glyph of Incinerate...which is 5% damage on a spell you should be spamming.

    Personally, my builds are only 41 points into Demo, because with the 5% damage boost from having a Felguard, you can still get all the way down to Devastation.

    3 Points in Molten Core makes Incinerate shine.


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    Trash: Just spam SoC. Really. If the team doesn't have the DPS to proc SoC before the next one hits, put a /targetenemy in the macro so you are casting it at a different mob.

    At level 71, against 4 mob pulls, SoC was doing 3k DPS for my warlock team. My Fel Guards were doing another 400 DPS each.

    Of course that's a single trash fight, but you get the idea.
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    I am going to take a look at my lock builds this evening, some suggestions were made in another thread on this . I did not do any glyphs for the offspec having not played demo since leveling.
    I will revisit demo spec at the weekend I think

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    Not looking at your DPS, but rather your +spell power...

    He said his toons are at +4300 spell power.
    Demonic Pact gets your party/raid, a 10% (of your spell power) increase.
    So in his case, DP grants +430 spell power, as opposed to +280 spell power from just ToW.
    Chances are 1x ToW is up anyway, for the increased crit chance.

    In my warlocks case, DP is not even close to the spell power from ToW.
    So it varies with gear.

    Even if you were to take a 1k DPS hit on the warlock.
    If your other DPS were to gain more then 1k DPS across them, it would be a good trade.
    But, you'd need a high enough SP on the warlock for DP to pass ToW by a large enough margin.
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    thanks for the post niley. i was getting bored with destro. I was leaning toward demo since i've never played it before. Time to give the ol' felguard a try.

    I got about a 30% dps jump at lvl 71 from the switch. It could be that my click macro sucked for destro. Either way I'm happy with the switch.
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