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    Excellent summary Super, as a player who was more of a raider that became a multiboxer all that information is good stuff.

    As a former and current mod/admin/owner of several enthusiast sites I'm used to that reflexive whining of the masses when the poor schmuck with the badge posts as himself versus when he posts as the dude with the badge. You do a good job being transparent about that.

    As far as fighting stupid with stupid regrettably yes it's accurate. Our raiding org (Leftovers) has ongoing hate threads for Gearscore as it's so abused by the windowlickers of the WoW world.

    I run in a huge raiding alliance with charters, so my need to pug is minimal, but the advice about having your gear gemmed and enchanted is huge. Nothing says "I'm lazy carry me" like ungemmed/unenchanted gear. Doesn't matter if it's not your final set, a baseline level of cost and effort is required to show you're serious rather than wanting someone else to skate you to purples. And everyone who has done any amount of raiding has experienced "I scrimped to get that piece for weeks and got an upgrade 2 days after I finally got it, making it worthless". Cost of doing business.

    Gemming and enchanting is part of raid prep, so is reading strategies and being prepared. Whether a student on his laptop in class reading tankspot strats instead of facebook or a working professional doing it over their lunch hour.

    For addons the minimum baseline for me would be Omen and Deadly Boss Mods, Omen tells you when your threat gets too high for the tank and DBM tells you when to move out of the fire in big windowlicker proof letters and alert sounds.

    You're in the raid? Great!
    1- Don't stand in the fire.
    2- Kill the skull (aka assist the tank)
    3- Profit.

    Sure there's a ton of "Do's and Do-not's" you can add beyond that (like don't do recount reports to the raid, it makes you "that guy"), but this is the bare bare basics.


    e: And pugchecker.com is one of the better snapshot tools I've seen.
    Last edited by Jheusse : 01-19-2010 at 11:19 AM

  2. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jheusse View Post
    don't do recount reports to the raid, it makes you "that guy"
    i wish everyone knew this... recount needs a restriction in raids so that only the leader or assist can post it in the raid chat.
    Bot (80 Paladin) / Carfire (80 Shaman)
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  3. #43

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bot View Post
    i wish everyone knew this... recount needs a restriction in raids so that only the leader or assist can post it in the raid chat.
    Especially don't post full 25-player recount to raid, when they're trying to distribute loot via /random rolls!
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    Mousetracks (assass/combat former raiding main) armory L80
    Background (holy, to be new raiding main) armory L79

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    Quote Originally Posted by falsfire3401 View Post
    Especially don't post full 25-player recount to raid, when they're trying to distribute loot via /random rolls!
    I've watched pug raids pull people or exclude them from loot for that. Everybody was in agreement on it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fursphere View Post
    If you're on the bloodlust battlegroup:

    Addons:
    Gearscore (get it so you know what your score is)
    ElitestGroup (tells you if people have shit gear / enchants / gems / pvp gear /etc)
    Bimbo - Reminds you to gem / enchant your gear
    Rankwatch - If you're using the wrong rank spell because you (or a bug) screwed up your bar? Prepare to get kicked from groups quickly if you have this happen to you.
    DeadlyBossMods - you should have this installed, but if you don't, you're doomed.
    Thanks, didn't know about Bimbo.
    The poetry that comes from the squaring off between,
    And the circling is worth it,
    Finding beauty in the
    dissonance


  6. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svpernova09 View Post
    Just an alternative Tank shoulder enchant if you're not exalted yet
    www.wowhead.com/?item=Greater Inscription of the Gladiator
    Last edited by Diwa : 01-19-2010 at 08:15 PM


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diwa View Post
    Just an alternative Tank shoulder enchant if you're not exalted yet
    www.wowhead.com/?item=Greater Inscription of the Gladiator
    On my druid tank I use this for raiding instead of the hodir enchant. 30 stamina > 20dodge+15 defense. easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fursphere View Post
    If you're on the bloodlust battlegroup:

    Addons:
    Gearscore (get it so you know what your score is)
    ElitestGroup (tells you if people have shit gear / enchants / gems / pvp gear /etc)
    Bimbo - Reminds you to gem / enchant your gear
    Rankwatch - If you're using the wrong rank spell because you (or a bug) screwed up your bar? Prepare to get kicked from groups quickly if you have this happen to you.
    DeadlyBossMods - you should have this installed, but if you don't, you're doomed.
    ok, I did a google search for ElitestGroup. Is this an addon, as I can't find it Fur.

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    - and the amusing thing about it is that they are."- Father Kevin
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    Quote Originally Posted by F9thRet View Post
    ok, I did a google search for ElitestGroup. Is this an addon, as I can't find it Fur.

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    LOL, thanks again Ugh! that's what happens when I copy and paste.

    Pokes Fur.

    Stephen
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    point of arrogance, that they are the most ferocious fighters on earth
    - and the amusing thing about it is that they are."- Father Kevin
    Keaney, Chaplain, Korean War

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