Stop being bad, easy things to make pugging raids easier for you.

[Littleburst]

We'll have to agree to disagree. Your role is DPS, Stam is not a DPS stat. Period. Taking aoe damage? Get out of it. Die because of aoe that you got out of? Fix the healer issue you have.

Asuming people are perfect spirit > stamina yes. Asuming people do make mistakes because we're not perfect, stamina can be usefull in cases.

[Vecter]

I'm an elitist asshole"

This is the only reason I hang with you.

[Svpernova09]

Asuming people are perfect spirit > stamina yes. Asuming people do make mistakes because we're not perfect, stamina can be usefull in cases.

The point of this post was to have a raid focus. Since a lot of us are pugging raids now that we're finishing off our T9 sets. 20 stamina, even with kings, is not going to let you survive that 40k hit you took from the raid boss.

[thinus]

Also thinus, I don't understand why you're saying 20 STA > 20 SPI when your lock is using the 20 SPI leg enchant: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ssan&n=Msblack

Its 30 stamina vs 20 spirit.

I stand corrected on Warlocks, I forgot that spirit contributed to SP, had a pre 3.0 flashback.

As for Msblack, my tailor probably only had the mats for the brilliant spellthread at the time and I am also not raiding on these characters. I think the difference between the two enchants is so minor that either should be fine for any caster dps.

Your subject is "easy things to make pugging raids easier for you". If you are pugging you don't know the healers or their competency. You don't have the ideal class balance. Sometimes the dps will just have to suck it up till the heals get around to them. Your job as a dps is to stay alive and dps, not just dps, you cannot dps when you are dead and sacrificing 20 spirit for more survivability will always be a great trade for me but in the greater scope of things I don't think it matters much and either should be fine.

[sliptrap]

BUT SVPER! I know, I know, Fenril likes men, he's still cool though.

LOL just isnt enough... ROFL is barley descriptive enough... LMAO really doesnt do it justice.... so i just have to say ROFLMAOSLTNCTC. (ROFLMAO u know... SLTNCTC=so loud the neighbors called the cops)


Zod bows before the almighty Svper

[sliptrap]

W

I might just forget to taunt a group off of you while you're spamming mangle. Oops!

Dont worry bear i got your back

[Svpernova09]

ROFLMAOSLTNCTC @ Zod's new user title

[MiRai]

I hate you people...

I might just forget to taunt a group off of you while you're spamming mangle. Oops!

Dont worry bear i got your back

You won't always be there to save the loldpsmew...Paladin.

[zenga]

Yeah I just love seeing ppl with the iLvl 245 triumph shoulders...with no enchant. Or an empty gem socket. No head enchant on an epic. Or green gems in epic gear. Sigh. The list goes on and on.

or some people are still 'building' and ...
- don't have the tradeskills to craft their own stuff yet
- don't have enough connections in the game to get it cheap from a crafter when it's not available on the AH
- don't have the required rep with a faction
- decided to use a lower gem as they need the gold for other / better upgrades
- just don't have enough experience/knowledge to have a complete overview yet as they are new to the game to make the proper decisions

I love seeing seasoned people with badass gear and all the top enchants who...
- do lessor the same dps than myself
- gave me earlier on their 'expert' opinion about stuff that turns out to be not correct later on (unintended)
- make the same mistakes over and over again

I for one am playing wow for 3 months (my raf ended today). I refused offers to run me through instances to gear up, i did it myself the hard way. I don't have all the proper enchants. I see what i can do with the gold i have available. I've learned a lot from experimenting with lower enchants to see if they make a real difference. When i dinged 80 i've spent most of my gold on a few crafted major upgrades (and probably got ripped). But i improve my game every day. By keeping my eyes open.

Many people on my realm laughed at me when i spent time doing AV's to collect honor to get my shammies the gladiotor gear. But i kept doing it as i didn't feel comfortable running instances yet. It was the easiest way to increase my dps. The resilience might be worthless in pve, spell power & hit rating is the same + i became less killable in pvp. I didn't want to spend any money on gems / enchants for that gear, as it was just temp stuff. Started recently with clearing hc's in that gear and badges are coming in. When i acquire a piece that I consider part of my final build, i do spend the gold on enchants/gems provided they fit within my budget.

Several have asked me to join a raid because they see i make progress, i stick to a plan and i don't do really stupid stuff. They don't ask me because my gear score is imba or because i spend loads of gold to have a few improvements. They ask me because they know i inform myself as much as possible. (so far i have refused to take part in any raids as i want to complete my gear first boxing).

I do realize if i would join a raid some might have the same reaction like you. But my point is that judging someone's gear should be done within it's context, rather than hard numbers or the theory.

[Fursphere]

You have to combat stupid with stupid.

Sig worthy

I almost didn't post it - because of the obvious flame war it could have created. But you'd be amazed at how many times RankWatch goes crazy in PuGs at a healer using the wrong rank of spells - and then they thank me for point it out!

Then... some fucktard DPS starts bitching at ME (tank) for not pulling while the healer is fixing there spells. /sigh I even had a Warlock try to vote-kick me for helping the Resto Druid with healing "best practices". (the druid was super thankful)

Idiots. They're everywhere.

But on the subject of stupid - I *HATE* gearscore because of how people use it. My guild has proven time and time again that gear doesn't make the player, and we can do things with WAAAAAAAY less gear than we should have. (gogogo Priest healing Ony 10 in blues and greens! you know who you are you superstar!)