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    Quote Originally Posted by thinus View Post
    I don't agree with this. I prefer the www.wowhead.com/?item=Sapphire Spellthread on my caster dps. You will always be taking AoE / targeted damage from different boss/trash abilities and it has nothing to do with aggro management. I can much easier imagine a situation where 30 stamina saves my ass as to a situation where 20 spirit is going to do anything useful whatsoever. And for Warlocks this is just blatantly wrong.

    I agree, 1 extra (or in my case 3) extra Lifetapping goodness.

    Good info though.....like a quick start reference.
    Last edited by Velassra : 01-18-2010 at 05:54 PM

  2. #12

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    Trade leather for fur? Where/how do you do that?

  3. #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by thinus View Post
    I don't agree with this. I prefer the www.wowhead.com/?item=Sapphire Spellthread on my caster dps. You will always be taking AoE / targeted damage from different boss/trash abilities and it has nothing to do with aggro management. I can much easier imagine a situation where 30 stamina saves my ass as to a situation where 20 spirit is going to do anything useful whatsoever. And for Warlocks this is just blatantly wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Velassra View Post
    I agree, 1 extra (or in my case 3) extra Lifetapping goodness.

    Good info.....like a quick start reference though.
    http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t38033-m...ction_warlock/ (scroll to other stats under itemization

    The reason I say use the SP / SPI leg enchant is this:
    Spirit
    Much better than it used to be thanks to the new Fel Armor. Without Demonic Aegis you gain 30% of your spirit as spell power and 39% with. The amount of mana rewarded through Life Tap also scales with spirit.

    Also thinus, I don't understand why you're saying 20 STA > 20 SPI when your lock is using the 20 SPI leg enchant: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ssan&n=Msblack

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    Nice write up.

    You could always use the addons fur posted then you get to play World of Babysitting or if your not the babysitter its World of GearCraft.



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    Last edited by Fat Tire : 01-18-2010 at 06:16 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Tire View Post
    Nice write up.

    Its apparent that puggers are frustrating you, welcome to wow. You could always use the addons fur posted then you get to play World of Babysitting or if your not the babysitter its World of GearCraft.

    Lately it's mostly multiboxers that don't know this info, not puggers. That's why I posted it in General, and not in the LoB section. We need to help each other not be noobs as much s we can. I do run a few of the addons Fur posted. Babysitting is just the thing. I don't want to babysit. And the people I invite to my raids, I expect them to know this stuff / have it done. And for the most part, they do, aside from the occasional time we just need a body and it doesn't matter what toon comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svpernova09 View Post
    Lately it's mostly multiboxers that don't know this info, not puggers. That's why I posted it in General, and not in the LoB section. We need to help each other not be noobs as much s we can.
    bah you are too fast ;(

    no ninja edit for me.....

    it was a great write up, thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Tire View Post
    bah you are too fast ;(

    no ninja edit for me.....

    it was a great write up, thank you.

    No worries man, You're quick on the edit too. I just don't want this to be seen as "QQ I'm an elitist asshole" I'd rather it be seen as a starting list for someone totally new to raiding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck_Jones View Post
    Trade leather for fur? Where/how do you do that?

    From this NPC

    http://www.wowwiki.com/Braeg_Stoutbeard


    He's standing outside the LW trainers, he's the one that sells the patterns.

    10 www.wowhead.com/?item=Heavy Borean Leather = 1 www.wowhead.com/?item=Arctic Fur

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Tire View Post
    Nice write up.

    You could always use the addons fur posted then you get to play World of Babysitting or if your not the babysitter its World of GearCraft.



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    You have to combat stupid with stupid. I suggest getting those addons so you know what others are seeing about your character profile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fursphere View Post
    You have to combat stupid with stupid.
    Sig worthy

    My guild officers use most of those addons mentioned and we all use DBM plus the other most used raiding addons. I just wonder if blizzard made a mistake making the iLvl known, but I digress.
    Last edited by Fat Tire : 01-18-2010 at 06:29 PM

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    Yeah I just love seeing ppl with the iLvl 245 triumph shoulders...with no enchant. Or an empty gem socket. No head enchant on an epic. Or green gems in epic gear. Sigh. The list goes on and on.

    My favourite thing you didn't cover...

    KILL SKULL FIRST DAMNIT!!!

    A good tank can keep aggro off you even if you're attacking the wrong target, but still, the faster the Skull dies (there's this thing called "focus fire"), that's one less mob to worry about.
    Shadowsong US:
    Moosetracks (surv FORMER raiding main) armory L80
    Mousetracks (assass/combat former raiding main) armory L80
    Background (holy, to be new raiding main) armory L79

    Team A (Level 75) (retired, priest extracted to above)
    Foreground (prot) armory
    Middleground(demo) armory

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