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    Super,

    I would love to make this, although I'm taking the wifey out to dinner tonight. I should be able to be on by 8:00 PM PST, but don't wait for me if you get full. I have 5 toons that are above 4500 GS and another 5 that are at 5K GS, so shouldn't bring you down if I'm able to attend.


    On a broader note, I was thinking about these weekly raids and it seems a real shame to do these 10-man. Though almost all of us box we can each only get a toon or two through in 10-man raids and all of our alts have to PUG them or do without. About half the raids are pretty trivial (all the Naxx ones and OS), but the others require a bit more work. The Ulduar ones need 4-5 roles to be filled that take some focus. This means with only 10 spots, the ability to play multiple toons is very restricted. However, the 25-man versions of the Ulduar raids still only require 4-5 "focus" roles, allowing much more flexibility to get credit on multiple toons. This means DPS may not be optimal, but this doesn't really matter if we outgear the instance.

    So my thought is that doing 10-mans is missing out on a key opportunity we have as boxers and that doing 25-mans would be more beneficial, more challenging, and more epic. If we plan the raids each week, filling up 25 spots should be pretty easy. I personally can bring 10 if needed, but be more than willing to be the first one to start to remove toons if we have more "real" people to fill the spots.

    Even for the Naxx ones and OS (all of which I have soloed on 10-man), it seems like it would be more fun to do them as 25-mans and allow more guild alts to get credit. I know we ran Naxx 25 a number of times on Magtheridon with only 3 or 4 of us actually playing with great success.

    If you think this has merit, the only other input I would have is that nights tend the be the one time during the day that my wife expects me NOT to be playing. Just about anytime Saturday or Sunday (except Saturday night) would work for me. Of course, I'm just one small input, but take it for what it's worth.
    10-boxing Alliance Sargeras and Kil'jaeden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurio View Post
    Super,

    I would love to make this, although I'm taking the wifey out to dinner tonight. I should be able to be on by 8:00 PM PST, but don't wait for me if you get full. I have 5 toons that are above 4500 GS and another 5 that are at 5K GS, so shouldn't bring you down if I'm able to attend.


    On a broader note, I was thinking about these weekly raids and it seems a real shame to do these 10-man. Though almost all of us box we can each only get a toon or two through in 10-man raids and all of our alts have to PUG them or do without. About half the raids are pretty trivial (all the Naxx ones and OS), but the others require a bit more work. The Ulduar ones need 4-5 roles to be filled that take some focus. This means with only 10 spots, the ability to play multiple toons is very restricted. However, the 25-man versions of the Ulduar raids still only require 4-5 "focus" roles, allowing much more flexibility to get credit on multiple toons. This means DPS may not be optimal, but this doesn't really matter if we outgear the instance.

    So my thought is that doing 10-mans is missing out on a key opportunity we have as boxers and that doing 25-mans would be more beneficial, more challenging, and more epic. If we plan the raids each week, filling up 25 spots should be pretty easy. I personally can bring 10 if needed, but be more than willing to be the first one to start to remove toons if we have more "real" people to fill the spots.

    Even for the Naxx ones and OS (all of which I have soloed on 10-man), it seems like it would be more fun to do them as 25-mans and allow more guild alts to get credit. I know we ran Naxx 25 a number of times on Magtheridon with only 3 or 4 of us actually playing with great success.

    If you think this has merit, the only other input I would have is that nights tend the be the one time during the day that my wife expects me NOT to be playing. Just about anytime Saturday or Sunday (except Saturday night) would work for me. Of course, I'm just one small input, but take it for what it's worth.
    I think Malygos, Ignis, XT-002 would probably be the hardest to box on 25 man. The others should be doable pretty easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurio View Post
    Super,

    I would love to make this, although I'm taking the wifey out to dinner tonight. I should be able to be on by 8:00 PM PST, but don't wait for me if you get full. I have 5 toons that are above 4500 GS and another 5 that are at 5K GS, so shouldn't bring you down if I'm able to attend.


    On a broader note, I was thinking about these weekly raids and it seems a real shame to do these 10-man. Though almost all of us box we can each only get a toon or two through in 10-man raids and all of our alts have to PUG them or do without. About half the raids are pretty trivial (all the Naxx ones and OS), but the others require a bit more work. The Ulduar ones need 4-5 roles to be filled that take some focus. This means with only 10 spots, the ability to play multiple toons is very restricted. However, the 25-man versions of the Ulduar raids still only require 4-5 "focus" roles, allowing much more flexibility to get credit on multiple toons. This means DPS may not be optimal, but this doesn't really matter if we outgear the instance.

    So my thought is that doing 10-mans is missing out on a key opportunity we have as boxers and that doing 25-mans would be more beneficial, more challenging, and more epic. If we plan the raids each week, filling up 25 spots should be pretty easy. I personally can bring 10 if needed, but be more than willing to be the first one to start to remove toons if we have more "real" people to fill the spots.

    Even for the Naxx ones and OS (all of which I have soloed on 10-man), it seems like it would be more fun to do them as 25-mans and allow more guild alts to get credit. I know we ran Naxx 25 a number of times on Magtheridon with only 3 or 4 of us actually playing with great success.

    If you think this has merit, the only other input I would have is that nights tend the be the one time during the day that my wife expects me NOT to be playing. Just about anytime Saturday or Sunday (except Saturday night) would work for me. Of course, I'm just one small input, but take it for what it's worth.
    Now I could do 25-man (right Svper? haha )
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    Wow, three replies in the time it took me to find an avatar? If the forums are any indication, you guys are about 20X more active than good old Mag.
    10-boxing Alliance Sargeras and Kil'jaeden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurio View Post
    Wow, three replies in the time it took me to find an avatar? If the forums are any indication, you guys are about 20X more active than good old Mag.

    Don't let the morning guildchat silence fool you, we can get out of hand pretty quick.

    lol l2/raidinfo




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    My sobriety is *not* guaranteed tonight. I plan to predrink for ignis and probably drink during, and even more after. I will not be responsible for anything I say after 8pm on vent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svpernova09 View Post
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    My sobriety is *not* guaranteed tonight. I plan to predrink for ignis and probably drink during, and even more after. I will not be responsible for anything I say after 8pm on vent.

    OMG Raid beerz! Yeah you guys have experienced drunked Zod on vent... silly doesnt begin to describe it. So maybe tonight you'll get to witness it firsthand.
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