Trouble using lvl 80s for lowbie instance grinding with RAF

[Ualaa]

If its entirely pet damage (and totems are pets), then there's no experience or loot.

However if the lowbies are grouped (at least 2 of them).
And they tag the mob first.

Pets take 0% of the experience from them.

[Moorea]

remember you get the most xp on your lowbies from mob that are yellow and orange - you get LESS xp from red mob, which sounds counter intuitive (and the red'er the less xp you get)

e.g. you may get something like 6 xp from killing an outland mob for a level 20 while you get 400 xp from a level 22 mob in stockades

[Khatovar]

If its entirely pet damage (and totems are pets), then there's no experience or loot.

Damage shields can effect this, too. I was boosting in SM using my Enh shaman and was losing XP to my Lightning Shield.

[zenga]

Is this correct what was stated above: 1 level 80 + 4x level 20 will get more xp each for killing a lvl 20 mob than 1 level 80 and 2x level 20? Just because the average group level is lower in the 5 team than in the 3 team?

[Lokked]

Is this correct what was stated above: 1 level 80 + 4x level 20 will get more xp each for killing a lvl 20 mob than 1 level 80 and 2x level 20? Just because the average group level is lower in the 5 team than in the 3 team?

Correct. You are also forfeiting some of the group XP bonus.

As you may notice while boosting in SFK starting at lvl 10 and SM starting at lvl 20, you will receive progressively more and more XP from each kill on the alts as you increase in level, up to a certain level, where XP/mob will reach a zenith, then regress as your alts level further.
This is further indication that either there is a cap on XP/mob for each level, or that the greater the level difference between the player and the mob, the less XP it is worth. Most likely the former.

This increase and the decrease of Alt XP follows along with the prior idea that XP is calculated based on the average group level. With an 80 Booster, Alt lvl 20 gives an Average Group Level (AGL) is 32. The mobs in Cath are 36 - 40. AGL 36 is reached at Alt lvl 25 and AGL 40 is reached at 30. It would stand to reason that XP will taper off and begin to drop past these level ranges.

It makes little difference if a level 70 Booster is used. With Alt lvl 20s, AGL is 30. At Alt lvl 30, AGL is 38.
What I'd be willing to bet is, no matter the boosters level, the XP gained before the AGL passes the mob level is the same across all toons no matter the booster's level.

Maybe next set I boost I'll test this.

[Ualaa]

In my experience, XP is divided in a group based on your percentage of the groups level.
Group a 32 and a 36 together.
The 36 gets more exp's.
Now drop the 36 and add a 34.
The 34 gets more exp's still, but the 32 is getting more then before and the 34 is taking less extra then the 36 did, all for the same level mobs.

It isn't so much average group level (although AGL vs total experience awarded is a very interesting idea).



20 on (80 + 20 + 20 + 20 + 20 = 160) = 20/160 = 12.5% of the levels.
20 on (80 + 20 + 20) = 20/120 = 16.67% of the levels.

Two 20's grouped with an 80, each represent 16.67% of the total levels.
Not sure the exact formula (don't know that anyone outside of Blizzard is).
But they will get more experience for the actual kill, then when each toon is only 12.5% of the total levels.
Sure, they forfeit the group experience of a party of 5 vs a party of 3.
But the kill experience is by far the lion's share.

And actually, calculating AGL, with only two lowbies, AGL is higher.
80 + 20 + 20 = 120 / 3 = 40 AGL.
80 + 20 + 20 + 20 + 20 / 5 = 32 AGL.

Despite AGL being 40, two level 20's will get good XP in Scarlet Monastery.
Their exp per kill rises as they approach the mobs level (peaking when they are slightly lower then mobs).
And eventually falls, as they pass the mobs level.

[arclegacy]

That's it! I'm using a lvl 80 shaman. I apologize I shouldve added that info. But I literally searched random google links to find that info I had a feeling cause of one link I found and I thought," maybe it's cuz I was using a totem to kill the mobs and here is dome bug that counts the totem kill like a pet kill." but thank you all for your posts I'm quite new to this and all the info I get is very useful thanks

[Moorea]

you should test it on your own but last time I did I found that the maximum xp was with 3 (1 booster 3 lowbies)

so if you're boosting only 1 or 2 of your own toons; if you can invite additional people to get to a party of 4 total (including booster) you'll get the most xp - make sure the extras you invite are lower level than your own guys otherwise they'll get significantly more xp - typically when the guys I boost are say level 19, I try to invite random level 15s to do stocks with